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Topic: DERANN CLOSING DOWN
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted August 30, 2011 01:30 PM
I wrote Gary and told him that if he wants to, just send me his e-mail address in case he'd like to stay in touch. That is how much of a friend I think of him!
There is the German film lab and it is quite good, ut that Derann quality really isn't something I think that we are bound to see again, especially concerning those Disney features and shorts.
Derann's print quality on negatives that were originally other companies work (for instance, Red Fox Films), were quite a bit better as well. I swear, I have never even seen 16MM prints of some of those rare Warner Brother cartoons that were near as good.
I have a print of "Gruesome Twosome" an alltime classic by Bob Clampett, and I have observed individual frames from it, and it is truly comparable to the DVD box set copies of these films. That is no joke and it's amazing to think of the level of quality to these prints. The same can be said for "Coal Black and De Sebben Dwarves", another rare Bob Clampett Warners short.
... and the belief they held for the super 8 market, for so long. When nearly everybody else was throwing in the towel, Derann KNEW that there were super 8 loovers all over the world that stubbornly held onto thier collection in the face of VHS, laserdisc and DVD and still plodded on and were rewarded handsomely!
Man Oh Man, I will miss Derann!
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Keith Ashfield
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 997
From: U.K.
Registered: Dec 2006
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posted September 02, 2011 04:38 PM
Joe - believe it or not, the "feature films" at Derann have been in short supply for about 18 months now. There have not been any films printed since the UK laboratory closed.
Therefore, the stocks that they had, upon lab closure, have all been sold over the past 18/24 months.
I went to the shop last week to pick up my copy of "The Abyss" and was told then that all they had "new" was a couple of features in stock, a Disney title and an MGM musical. I only managed to get "The Abyss" (which I have been after for a long time) because the collector who ordered it (when it was in stock along with a lot of other titles) could not afford to pay for the film before Deranns closure. He had "first option" and could not raise the funds.
There may be the odd feature title with dealers like Dave Thomas etc. who bought titles when they were "plentiful".
What there is now is ALL there is and that is it. It's then down to, either another distributor to "take up the reins", or between us, the collector, to sell / trade etc by whatever means we can.
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"We'll find 'em in the end, I promise you. We'll find 'em. Just as sure as a turnin' of the earth".
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Adrian Winchester
Film God
Posts: 2941
From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004
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posted September 03, 2011 06:42 AM
It's difficult to be very optimistic about Derann's equipment surviving. The striper would be an enormous challenge to get working again, so who will consider it worthwhile, considering the space it occupies, the lack of certainty regarding whether it can work well again and the limited amount of demand for striping nowadays. As for the sound recording equipment, it's hard to imagine anyone interested except CHC. But I believe CHC bought Perry's former recording equipment but didn't use it. I suppose someone might be able to use the slitter. I hope I'm wrong, but if the situation was brighter, I expect someone would have bought the printer at Film Labs North when that closed, and we wouldn't now have only one lab in the world printing Super 8!
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Adrian Winchester
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 04, 2011 04:18 AM
My thoughts exactly John,it is hard to have to admit that cine film always was, is and always will be the most enjoyable way to watch our movies but i it has to be said that with the likes of blu-ray, home cinema has now come within reach of everyone and it is so cheap to run once your set up. We are keeping our cine films and equipment, in fact, as we speak one by one our projectors are having a Bill Parsons work over to ensure they go on for many moreyears, maybe thats where all cine enthusiats should look right now to? There is also the likes of Perrys, Paul Foster and CHC to support, as well as a few others to keep this hobby alive for as long as possible. It is clearly only going to be a second hand market from here on with the exception of a very few rare releases.
On Derann, its clear no one wants to see them fold, had they have folded 5 years ago maybe our hobby would have died by now who knows? Steam trains are still going because of enthusiasts so no reason why our hobby shouldnt go on, I feel very sorry for the boys at Derann because you will probably find that the staff didnt know this was going to happen until just before it was announced on here, (incorredctly as well), so can you imagine how they must be feeling after so many loyal years to there employer? I Know how i would be feeling! So my last thoughts are for the three main hard working devoted men in the cine department. Whats next for them? If it were any of us how would we be feeling waking up the next day with no work after a life of work? ![[Frown]](frown.gif)
Good luck to all at Derann.
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1633
From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 04, 2011 08:49 AM
Yes, when all is said and done, it's the guys at Derann I feel for most.
Honestly, I think this is all still sinking in with me. I know I'm being melodramtic, but when something has always been there, your whole life, and part of it, it is just so sad...
I know some will tell me to get a grip, but it is a bit like a bereavement, because in months to come I will find myself thinking, "oh, I need so and so, I'll give Derann a call..."
Then remember.
Sorry if this sounds a bit much, but I'm truly finding it quite upsetting!
Anyway, once again, to all at Derann...best wishes guys...
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Tom Photiou
Film God
Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted September 04, 2011 09:49 AM
True about new releases, i'd completly forgot to mention Steve at the reel image to, that little magazine is very good, and of course a few new releases do get imported still.
Something i was amazed about is this, when i spoke to Ged at Derann a week ago i coildnt believe what he was telling me, that some people were actually ringing the super 8 department moaning about the closure asking "where am i meant to go to get cine stuff now", suffice to say he explained that they have to bite there tongues, i know what i would have said, but thats me i guess, arnt some people clueless and selfish ![[Eek!]](eek.gif) !!!
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