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Jan Bister
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posted November 24, 2005 11:33 AM

Was Charlie Chaplin's THE GOLD RUSH ever released by Niles Films? I'm wondering, because...

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Jonathan Sanders
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posted November 25, 2005 01:49 AM

Yes, I have a 1975 Niles catalog and it's in there on Reg, Super and 16mm. The other day there was a Blackhawk print on eBay too.

Jonathan

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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posted November 25, 2005 02:00 AM

Btw, it was also released by Atlas in Germany as far as I know.

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Craig Hamilton
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posted November 25, 2005 07:29 AM

Jan, If you can try and obtain the Blackhawk print, it is one of the best.

If you really want a good copy I have the full master negative in my collection if you want to try your hand at contact printing, should keep you busy in your laboratory for a while. [Big Grin]

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Dimitrios Kremalis
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posted November 25, 2005 10:42 AM

Craig, as far as I know, Jan belongs to the lucky ones who already have the Blackhawk version. [Wink]

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Jan Bister
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posted November 25, 2005 06:34 PM

That is correct. [Big Grin]

However it retains a very slight vinegar smell (but is holding up fine right now). So if I can get another copy of the film for cheap, I'll consider doing that... also I'd LOVE to find the German Atlas print as I believe it has that wonderful, beautiful orchestral soundtrack I've been looking for ever since I had the Piccolo-Film 100ft. extract of the feature (which I believe has the same music).

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Osi Osgood
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posted November 29, 2005 10:47 AM

One thing tom keep in mind, however, with the Niles prints is the sharpness, which can be real iffy on Niles prints.

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Jan Bister
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posted November 29, 2005 11:28 PM

Oh, believe me, I'm well aware of that... [Eek!]

I did have two Niles prints of Hoppity Goes To Town once... one was fuzzy and way too soft, but strangely the other one (which I'm keeping) is razor-sharp and crisp. Go figure!? [Eek!]

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Fabrizio Mosca
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posted November 30, 2005 04:48 PM

Jan, I have a Blackhawk copy too but in mine there are almost 2 minutes in reel two with a sort of negative jumping of the scene. Is it present in your copy too?
Does anybody know if this defect was common to many prints?

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Jan Bister
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posted November 30, 2005 10:29 PM

Hmm.... now that you mention it... yes, I remember seeing the same jumping in my print of GOLD RUSH, too. I think it was later into the film (not reel 2), and it was very peculiar in that the image did exactly one little jump every second...and that lasted maybe a few minutes. Nothing terrible, but a minor annoyance nonetheless... maybe it was negative damage?

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Fabrizio Mosca
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posted December 01, 2005 05:23 PM

Yes, you're right, it is later in the film. It may be a negative damage, but the strange thing is that you have the full frame even with the jumping and no separation between frames is seen on the screen

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Jan Bister
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posted December 01, 2005 10:51 PM

You're right! [Eek!]

Maybe it has something to do with the frame aperture of the original 35mm film vs. its super-8 counterpart... could be that the original aspect ratio was closer to a square format than the standard 4:3 format, thus there would have been extra image information on the top/bottom that was cropped to fit the image into the super-8 format. That might explain why there are no frame lines... Very mysterious, though. [Confused]

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