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Topic: [HELP]: Minolta 64XL camera, how is the shape of microphone jack

Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 25, 2010 12:50 PM

Hi all,

My camera is Minolta 64 XL and I am expecting to get an old sound cartrdige.

I am now experimenting to shoot with live sound is taken. The camera comes with an original microphone BUT it doesn't have the wire to get in to the camera.

So I am thinking to make my own wire from Microphone to the camera.

How is the shape of microphone jack to get in to the camera? Can someone post the zoom in photo of your microphone jack please?

(I believe my camera has similar feature with Minolta 42 XL and 84 XL).

Secondly, where the jack is inserted to the camera. See picture below and I have marked with numbers. So it is no. 1, 2, 3 or 4?

thanks

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Martin Jones
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posted January 25, 2010 01:38 PM

Wimbert,
3 is the Mic Jack... standard 3.5mm
4 is the Remote jack.... standard 2.5mm
Many microphones were supplied with BOTH of them in the SAME moulding; the switch on the microphone body switches the camera motor on and off.
2 is the earpiece (headphone) socket.... standard 3.5mm

1 is.... no idea!

Martin

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 25, 2010 01:50 PM

Thanks Martin,

quote:
3 is the Mic Jack... standard 3.5mm
4 is the Remote jack.... standard 2.5mm
Many microphones were supplied with BOTH of them in the SAME moulding; the switch on the microphone body switches the camera motor on and off.

I see... I know this type of jack when I was using Sankyo camera.

But since the remote jack is not necessary, if I make my own jack, can I just plug in to no. 3 only ?

Secondly, my microphone is the one attached on the top of camera (boom microphone?). Look at the picture below (BTW, that is my youngest son trying to use my camera [Big Grin]

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Is that any possibility that the microphone will be automatically connected with the camera one it is placed there?

thanks

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Winbert

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted January 25, 2010 02:11 PM

Winbert,

According to the manual, "Attaching this compact uni-direction microphone to the top of the camera connects it cordlessly".

You can download the manual for the Minolta XL-Sound 42, 64 and 84 here.

Doug

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John Davis
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posted January 25, 2010 02:40 PM

According to the manual '1' is FM for radio transmissions; that's something you don't see every day.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 25, 2010 02:47 PM

Doug and John, Thanks,

quote:
According to the manual, "Attaching this compact uni-direction microphone to the top of the camera connects it cordlessly".

That's great. That's what I was suspecting too. Now, how can I check that the live sound is recorded to the film? Since I don't see any sound level meter at my camera?

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John Davis
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posted January 25, 2010 03:14 PM

Hi Winbert,
the most obvious way to check sound levels is plugging a set of headphones into the monitor socket.
At this point I'll ask others to chip in because it's at the back of my mind that cine camera headphones have a different impedance from regular mp3 compatible headphones. I used language lab headphones when I used to shoot super 8 sound on my Elmo.
Incidently where are you getting the sound film from?

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 25, 2010 05:20 PM

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Incidently where are you getting the sound film from?

John, it is from Ebay. Someone from Ebay UK is offering 1986 batch sound carts. He offers this few times (he has a lot of cart). And I have contacted some of the previous winners and confirmed it gives good result. Man... it is 1986 batch....after 23 years!!!

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Jim Carlile
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posted January 27, 2010 03:25 AM

The monitor impedance depends upon the camera. The best bet is to use one of those old-fashioned, high impedance earbuds, the white ones with the twisted wire leads and a submini plug.

Low impedance headphones can short out some amplifiers, so just in case, go high. It won't hurt.

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