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Topic: The Thing From Another World

Thomas Smith
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posted March 17, 2011 08:20 PM

hello any info on this film i.e who released it on super 8mm
thanks [Confused]

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted March 17, 2011 08:29 PM

HI Tom

The version I have is Castle Films #246 200' B&W silent.
I think there is a feature on s8 also but not sure.

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Marshall Crist
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posted March 17, 2011 10:38 PM

Surely that is Ken and not Castle? How's the cutdown, BTW?

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted March 18, 2011 02:33 AM

Back of box says Castle. I haven't watched it yet [Confused]

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Marshall Crist
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posted March 18, 2011 03:03 AM

I bet the back of the box was originally from another film. Unless there is some unknown (to me) part of 8mm history where Castle handled this. It's possible!

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Thomas Smith
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posted March 18, 2011 06:41 AM

hello thanks for all info but i have the feature
4x400ft reels but cant find any name on leader
with regards to who released it

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Adrian Winchester
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posted March 18, 2011 04:49 PM

I bet the feature is very rare - I can't recall hearing of one being offered.

Regarding the cutdown, it's strange that some films of considerable stature, like this one, were never released with sound. Another good example would be Curse of the Demon.

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Joe McAllister
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posted March 19, 2011 05:36 AM

This was originally released by RKO so was probably released by Mountain who had the rights .

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Mark Williams
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posted March 19, 2011 06:45 AM

MOUNTAIN never released this film in the UK,it was released by several USA based distributors though.

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Thomas Smith
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posted March 19, 2011 07:22 AM

hello mark thanks for info any names of dist ?
because i cant find any details on the film.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted March 19, 2011 08:00 AM

Tom - I'm curious whether your 4 x 400' seems edited a bit. I don't suppose it's the 87 or 85 min versions mentioned on IMDB, but apparently there was an 81 min reissue version that I suppose could just fit if they were full reels.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted March 19, 2011 08:45 AM

I just took a look at the leader on my feature print and there's no information. I'll put it on rewinds and see if the tail offers any clues.

That silent 200 footer is from Ken Films.

Doug

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Claus Harding
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posted March 19, 2011 11:42 AM

I got "Thing" recently, have yet to go through it, but it was on five 400-footers of varying fullness in plain white boxes. No clue as to who released this.

Claus.

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 19, 2011 12:44 PM

Thomas ...

Does the image quality change about two thirds of the way through the film? I have a copy of that feature on laserdisc, and for some strange reason, the image quality suddenly looks dupey and then, after a few minutes, the image quality is right back up there.

Just curious.

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Douglas Meltzer
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posted March 19, 2011 03:17 PM

Osi,

My feature is consistent throughout. Welcome back.

Doug

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Thomas Smith
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posted March 19, 2011 05:41 PM

hello adrian i sent you an email with regards to running time
it looks complete to me all four reels are full i ran film and
i cant see any footage missing,it looks like it has the same
running time as my dvd.

osi yes the last two reels do drop in quality and then pick up
into reel 4 also has original ending in radio room i think a
collector said to me that his copy ends after creature is killed [Confused]

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Paul Spinks
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posted March 20, 2011 02:34 PM

Hi Tom,
that was me. I have an American 16mm TV print and after "The Thing" is destroyed a "The End" title is superimposed over the action. All of the wonderful "watch the skies" dialogue is missing. This is all professionally optical printed but I can't for the life of me work out why the end scene would be cut, unless it was for running time issues.

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Gary Crawford
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posted March 21, 2011 08:34 AM

The change in quality comes because when the film was re-released ...they decided to cut several little scenes, most notably scenes surrounding and including the famous bit with Nicki tying up the Capt. on their "date". Maybe they were cutting so it could be shown with something else for a double feature. At any rate, for some reason, the masters of that scene , when they were excised..., haven't reappeared.... some 16mm prints made early in the TV era still had those scenes. I remember seeing them in the late fifties. But when they got around to trying to put the film back together again as it was originally released, they couldn't find the 35mm scenes..and so, the version you see on Turner and on laser ...used 16mm footage that still existed ..so the sound quality declines and those few minutes are less sharp and a bit darker. That is what I was told happened. Today, most prints, including the Super 8 feature that was licensed ...do not have those scenes at all. I've searched for years to find a 16mm print with them intact...but I keep being outbid by folks with more money than I have.

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Paul Spinks
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posted March 21, 2011 09:25 AM

I'll have to run my print and see what other scenes have been removed. [Frown]

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Terry Lagler
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posted March 21, 2011 09:38 AM

Once got the Ken 200'er off Ebay and the original owner had edited out all of the creature scenes!

Must say I was a little dissapointed.
Terry

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Thomas Smith
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posted March 22, 2011 08:49 AM

hello paul so it was you are you selling your copy
of horror hotel yet [Big Grin]

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Paul Spinks
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posted March 22, 2011 08:59 AM

Hi Tom,
I just couldn't bear to part with it. [Smile]

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Lee Mannering
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posted March 22, 2011 09:27 AM

Thomas. Had a look through my late 60's and also 70's Derann cats and no sign of your feature from them.

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Osi Osgood
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posted March 22, 2011 10:23 AM

I thought that this was the case. Thanks Gary.

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Joe Taffis
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posted March 24, 2011 04:21 PM

this is a part of the page from a 1978 RED FOX catalogue [Smile]

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