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Grant Fitzgerald
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 161
From: Owatonna, MN
Registered: Oct 2011


 - posted November 20, 2011 12:39 AM      Profile for Grant Fitzgerald   Author's Homepage   Email Grant Fitzgerald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I feel like I have killed a masterpiece. I have been having problems with my projector lately and it is getting me very antsy. I want to be able to play all of these films I have just gotten and I keep trying them to see if I can figure out what is happening. After trying to figure out what is happening by what some people have told me I tried some stuff and played a very short bugs bunny films. To no avail the same problem keeps occurring. But I kept trying anyways. Then throughout my playing of the film it got bunched up allot and ripped. I put it back together with my last two pieces of presstape and on half the tape the wouldn't stick because the paper it was on is stuck to it. UGH!!! Then I try the same films again to try something else and I end up totally ripping the middle of the film where it first ripped into a bunch of pieces. Now allot of it is wrinkled and some of it beyond repair. I feel like a failure and that I have destroyed the film. Did anyone else ever have these problems when first starting the hobby. I feel like crap for ruining the middle of the film.

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Winbert Hutahaean
Film God

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From: Nouméa, New Caledonia
Registered: Jun 2003


 - posted November 20, 2011 12:53 AM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Grant, you are in the stage of learning. Something that all of us started with it.

That's why from the beginning I have told you to buy only cheap films ($1-$5) or even many members here are willing to throw free films for the cost of postage.

There is no such an instant hobby. Keep trying and be patient.

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Michael O'Regan
Film God

Posts: 3085
From: Essex, UK
Registered: Oct 2007


 - posted November 20, 2011 03:05 AM      Profile for Michael O'Regan   Email Michael O'Regan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My advice would be to have your projector looked at by an expert before you run any more film through it.

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John Davis
Master Film Handler

Posts: 286
From: Dunfermline, Fife, UK
Registered: Jun 2008


 - posted November 20, 2011 06:12 AM      Profile for John Davis   Email John Davis   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Grant,
one thing has occurred to me - do you check your films over on an editor prior to projection?
Existing torn sprocket holes on the film may mean that claws and sprocket wheels are swinging at fresh air and not moving the film on correctly causing subsequent film to bunch against it.
Obviously if you have checked your films and projected them successfully before then as advised above getting the projector checked out would make sense

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006


 - posted November 20, 2011 10:14 AM      Profile for Claus Harding   Email Claus Harding   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A bit late now, but for heaven's sake, have a test film available...never run a cherished print through "to see if things are fine"... [Eek!]

Claus.

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Grant Fitzgerald
Expert Film Handler

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From: Owatonna, MN
Registered: Oct 2011


 - posted November 20, 2011 10:34 AM      Profile for Grant Fitzgerald   Author's Homepage   Email Grant Fitzgerald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The thing is guys this was a cheap film it came in a pack of 5 that I got for 5 dollars. The reason it tore the second time is because a bunch of the sprockets had ripped when it bunched up. The reason I did use this film is because I got it for a dollar. But I still feel bad. Also I don't know any experts to have it looked at. And I don't have an editor. I just got a projector so I don't have anything else.

Oh also the films was bugs Bunny rides again 50' reel B&W. The movie is the last 3 minutes or so of the short.

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Adrian Winchester
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From: Croydon, London, UK
Registered: Aug 2004


 - posted November 20, 2011 03:15 PM      Profile for Adrian Winchester     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I know how you feel - if there's something I really hate, it's causing accidental damage to a film. Things can go wrong even if you are experienced. I recently bought a 16mm projector that has major differences to any other I've owned. I somehow scratched a 3 minute film by running it all without the auto-thread guides retracted. I can't believe I made a mistake like that! Try not to feel too bad about what happened; be glad it was a $1 film and not a feature worth $300 or more!

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Richard C Patchett
Master Film Handler

Posts: 424
From: Flint Mi 48506
Registered: Dec 2007


 - posted November 20, 2011 04:56 PM      Profile for Richard C Patchett   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Greetings Grant
You stated art killer
What kind of projector are you using???
8mm super 8 16mm or 9.5 35mm 70mm
what brand and model number do you have ???
Or did i miss it
RC

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Grant Fitzgerald
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From: Owatonna, MN
Registered: Oct 2011


 - posted November 20, 2011 04:58 PM      Profile for Grant Fitzgerald   Author's Homepage   Email Grant Fitzgerald   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
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