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Richard Bock
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posted September 23, 2012 10:09 AM

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I found this listing and wanted to entertain the idea of buying. I've asked for condition of the projector and he hasn't gotten back to me yet. He wants a decent offer.

- Elmo ST1200 Super8mm sound movie projector : includes spare EFR 150W lamp and all recording hardware (mic, stand, cabling)
- Bell and Howell Dual 8mm Autoload movie projector : includes spare DFZ 80W lamp
- Sears Regular 8mm Sound movie Projector : includes spare DCH 150W lamp and recording mic

- Nikon R8 Super8mm movie Camera : includes clever matte box lens attachment and (really expired) Super 8mm film!

- Goko G-2002 Dual 8mm/Super8 editor/viewer with spare lamp
- Ciro Super 8mm film splicer
- Craig Master Six Dual 8mm/Super8 splicer

- Over 31 Super8 and 8mm vintage sound movies including:
- King Kong - the complete and rare UK version of the feature film (includes footage that was edited out of the US version!)
- Wizard of Oz - 20 min segment
- Star Wars - 2-20 min segments
- The Empire Strikes Back- 20 min segment
- Jaws- 20 min segment
- Frankenstein- 20 min segment
- This Island Earth- 20 min segment
- The Incredible Shrinking Man- 20 min segment
- High Plains Drifter - 12 min segment
- The Wild One- 20 min segment
- WC Fields 'The Dentist' complete short
- WC Fields 'Hurry Hurry'- 12 min segment
- Marx Brothers 'This is War' and 'Pigskin Caper'- 12 min segment
- The Golden Voyage of Sinbad -2 - 12 min segment
- The 7th Voyage of Sinbad - 2 - 12 min segment - 'Evil Magician' and 'The Dragons Lair'
- Jason and the Argonauts - 12 min segment
- First Spaceship on Venus - 12 min segment
- Bedknobs and Broomsticks 'Match of the Century' battle of the wizards
- Popeye meets Ali Baba - complete short featuring animation rotoscoped over a live miniature set
- Sci Fi Trailers from the 50's - '20 million miles to Earth', 'EArth vs the Flying Saucers'
- Serial Trailers from the 30's and 40's
- vintage cartoon shorts - cartoon carnival, Hulk, Woody Woodpecker in 'The Loose Nut'
- Blackhawks classic film sampler

[ September 23, 2012, 09:38 PM: Message edited by: Richard Bock ]

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Tony Stucchio
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posted September 23, 2012 07:01 PM

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Really depends on condition of the equipment and films. There are a lot of color films listed that could be faded.

Anyway, here are my estimates, assuming everything is in at least very good condition with no issues:

Elmo: $250
B&H: $50
Sears: $50
other equipment: $100
King Kong: $250
Frankenstein: $50
Shrinking Man: $35
Other films: not an expert on all the titles but the above ones I know are desirable.

I'd offer about $900 for the lot.

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Richard Bock
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posted September 23, 2012 09:36 PM

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Thanks Tony. Appreciate the appraisal.

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Alan Rik
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posted September 25, 2012 04:34 PM

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If the Elmo is the ST1200HD with Optical than $200 would be about right but if its a standard ST1200 they run around $125-150.
King Kong is around $60-125 even if its the uncut version.
If he has the films in the original boxes then you would have to figure that in as well.

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Tony Stucchio
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posted September 26, 2012 01:01 PM

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Someone just listed KING KONG on eBay for $250 -- let's see if it sells for that.

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Osi Osgood
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posted September 26, 2012 01:03 PM

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That's probably my auction. That was the lowest price that he would want me to sell it for, and it is on ELMO reels with a cartoon and trailer. It's been up there for two weeks.

A lot depends on the company that issued the print as well. Not all "Kongs" are equal.

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John Capazzo
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posted September 26, 2012 01:10 PM

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An ST 1200HD magnetic is worth more than $200.00. I've gotten no less than $300.00 as I've sold a good 20 or so machines of those alone. A basic ST 1200 can be anywhere from $125.-200.00 as I've gotten over $200.00 twice for those.

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Alan Rik
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posted September 26, 2012 03:59 PM

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It may be worth more but the belts may need to be changed, may need to be cleaned and he is asking what the price he should offer. He should be getting a discount if he is getting the package deal. I too have sold the ST1200HD for around $200-250 but the belts were changed and the machines were cleaned up. As you know..we do know our machines here! [Smile]

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I tried selling my copy of King Kong a while back. It was the unedited version as well. Started at $250...went to $200...sold at $135 I think? Of course Derann was still around so maybe the price is higher.

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Richard Bock
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posted September 26, 2012 04:10 PM

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The person selling this package said that the King Kong was the Uk version with some scenes in that weren't in the original US version.

Thanks for all the info about the Elmos.

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Richard Bock
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posted September 30, 2012 09:52 AM

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Thanks for your replies. He will sell me the whole lot at $575. Would you do it? Anybody interested in any of these films or projectors (besides the Elmo and King Kong)? I will sell at fair price.

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Bill Phelps
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posted September 30, 2012 05:52 PM

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Richard, that sounds like a good deal to me!

Bill [Smile]

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted September 30, 2012 06:11 PM

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Richard go get it!

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Jon Addams
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posted September 30, 2012 06:36 PM

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Richard,

If the films and the projectors are in decent shape that looks like a good deal to me.

If you buy the package and want to sell the Goko G-2002 Dual 8mm/Super8 editor and the Ciro Super 8mm film splicer, I will be interested.

Good luck

Jon

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Richard Bock
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posted September 30, 2012 07:39 PM

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Thanks folks. I bought it. your responses encouraged me that i wasn't making a huge mistake. I will probably want to look at these films check for color on a few of them before I buy. thanks for the advice. I'll clean them and then price it and put it on the proper thread. Most of them I'm going to keep for a while as all I have is films in Black and white.

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Tony Stucchio
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posted October 01, 2012 05:16 PM

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$575 is a steal! Nice going!

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Pasquale DAlessio
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posted October 01, 2012 06:27 PM

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Richard

Well done. Your off to a great start. Congrats on a good deal.

PatD

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