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William Fleming
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 - posted January 04, 2014 12:47 PM      Profile for William Fleming   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Just put my new copy of King kong on to watch and discovered it is in French. Have i missed something here? I wasnt aware it was French other wise i would have not have bought it. Nothing against the French language just i dont speak it is all. Should i have
known i was getting a French copy?

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Pasquale DAlessio
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 - posted January 04, 2014 12:52 PM      Profile for Pasquale DAlessio     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Yes you should have known if it was stated in the auction or source of the posting. If it wasn't then you have a gripe. I would double check the source. If you can't get any results from that I would be willing to buy it from you. I don't understand French but I will try and redub the sound to English. Good luck!

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William Fleming
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 - posted January 04, 2014 12:59 PM      Profile for William Fleming   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi Pasquale i dont think there will be an issue returning it i got it from Phil at Classic. More the question did i miss something and the only copies left are in French [Smile] I know Phil didnt realise it was in French as im sure he would have told me straight away.How would you dub it back into English man i have so much to learn here.

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Lee Mannering
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 - posted January 04, 2014 01:57 PM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Will If its of any help I offer a audio recording service to high quality.
Best wishes

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Pasquale DAlessio
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 - posted January 04, 2014 02:50 PM      Profile for Pasquale DAlessio     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
How would you dub it back into English man i have so much to learn here.


You contact Lee Mannering. He is located right above this message! [Big Grin]

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David Ollerearnshaw
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 - posted January 04, 2014 02:58 PM      Profile for David Ollerearnshaw   Author's Homepage   Email David Ollerearnshaw   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Once bought 'The Wild Geese' 16mm from Phil, a fantastic print with excellent colour and sound, until Richard Burton started speaking French!

No problem sending back and he was most apologetic.

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Clinton Hunt
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 - posted January 04, 2014 08:53 PM      Profile for Clinton Hunt   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I bought A Star Is Born (Striesand) on ebay from a guy in Mexico and was surprised it was in Spanish or maybe Mexican but thankfully the music was the original english.But I am still pleased to own it
a lesson learnt about worldwide shopping eh guys [Roll Eyes] [Smile]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted January 05, 2014 02:19 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
It is unfortunate that often films for sale are not checked by the seller. One UK dealer told me that he does not have time to run his films through a projector. However, I am pleased to say that Barry Attwood of Independent 8 says he always runs his films to check them before sale.

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Lee Mannering
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 - posted January 05, 2014 02:48 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Re recording ‘abridged’ films to perfection is a fine art and not for the faint hearted. If a print is special to you, a rare issue, excellent print or you just want to improve the audio quality it is worth doing. Over the years I’ve particularly enjoyed converting mono tracks to stereo which is a lengthy process but quite a thrill when it hits the screen with the audience listening to the results.Basically if you want to squeeze the maximum form 8 you need to re-record the sound track at regular speed and with good tackle.
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William Fleming
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Would appear to be a common problem world wide [Smile] Clinton good that you didnt loose evergreen my wife looks at me funny when i listen to it even though i try to explain the story behind the take. Lee i think on this occasion would be easier to return it i appreciate the offer though and im interested to know more about the process.

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Lee Mannering
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 - posted January 05, 2014 03:06 AM      Profile for Lee Mannering     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Sent thee a PM Have a good Sunday

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted January 05, 2014 04:11 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Be aware that the French version is different from the American one. The beginning of the film was cut in the French theaters version.

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William Fleming
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 - posted January 05, 2014 05:33 AM      Profile for William Fleming   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dominique yes it starts out straight from the boat so would imagine rest of movie is there after that. I am considering getting it redubbed back into English now [Smile]

Lee replied [Smile]

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Maurice Leakey
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 - posted February 13, 2014 03:51 AM      Profile for Maurice Leakey   Email Maurice Leakey   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
William
It will be interesting to know how you got on with the French language print.

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted May 11, 2014 05:13 AM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Have you started to learn French, William ? :-)

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Clay Smith
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 - posted May 11, 2014 11:35 AM      Profile for Clay Smith   Email Clay Smith   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
King Kong in French? I would like that, it's a beautiful language. After a year and a half, the twins have become quite proficient in French. I am still not. I am jealous. My brain has become a concrete sphere upon which all incoming data now merely bounces off. (Yet I still retain all the words and melodies to 1960's TV commercial jingles.) C'est frustrant. Oui.

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Dominique De Bast
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 - posted May 11, 2014 12:21 PM      Profile for Dominique De Bast   Email Dominique De Bast   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Salut (hello), Clay. You can find many films (8-super 8, 9,5 and 16mm)in French on Ebay France ;-)

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Clay Smith
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Thanks Dominique. I am actually going to check that out. -Clay

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Paul Adsett
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 - posted May 11, 2014 01:55 PM      Profile for Paul Adsett     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Dominique, how does "T'was beauty that killed the beast" translate into French?

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Dominique De Bast
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Paul, if you translate litterally it is : "C'est la beauté qui a tué la bête". Is it sentence of the film or something famous ?

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Paul Adsett
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As I recall Dominique,and I have'nt seen King Kong in quite a while (so excuse me if I am wrong), that was the last sentence of the film, uttered over the dead body of Kong lying at the base of the Empire State building.

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Dominique De Bast
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I haven't seen it for a while, neither and my super 8 version is...in English, so I cannot check how it was precisely translated in French (youtube hasn't, although the search engine states the full version in French). I will try to find out. by the way, looking at youtube, I saw a 1933 like version with lego :-)

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Allan Broadfield
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 - posted May 12, 2014 10:56 AM      Profile for Allan Broadfield   Author's Homepage   Email Allan Broadfield   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
How interesting re. French King Kong. As a member of 9.5 group, I receive their quarterly magazine, and have dug up the winter 2011 edition which has notes on this subject. Years ago the French released King Kong on 9.5mm (reg.no. GS.70106) with the story beginning on ship where the Fay Wray character is being photographed. A rolling title at the start filled in the story up to that part. Apparently the french dubb was awful quality, and the cinema version was just as bad!
Incidentally, the 9.5 version apparently had all the bits in that were later censored out and only fairly recently put back. I doubt that it included the long lost spider pit sequence, though. Now that would be a find!

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Osi Osgood
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Gee, I didn't know King Kong was French? I thought he was Irish!

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