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Douglas Warren
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posted June 03, 2015 01:52 AM

I recently purchased a 400' B & W / Sound reel produced by Blackhawk Films called "Conquest of the Air". Upon running the reel there was no sound,but a sound stripe is visible on the film.I ran another sound reel on my machine and the sound was fine. Anyone else ever dealt with this issue before?

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Bill Phelps
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posted June 03, 2015 06:40 AM

Yes, I have a railroad film from Blackhawk...GREEN MOUNTAIN RR ON RUTLAND...that has a stripe but no soundtrack. I just assume it was erased by the previous owner. I have another railroad film...THUNDER OF STEAM IN THE BLUE RIDGE...during the inner-titles had music but now is only train sounds throughout the film as someone tried to erase the music during the inner-titles and it actually cut into the train sounds and left some remnants of the music.

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Douglas Warren
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posted June 03, 2015 08:09 AM

Hi Bill,
Thank you for the reply.I figure in time I'll try and add some music to the reel.The footage is in great shape,so it's a shame about the missing audio.

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Bill Phelps
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posted June 03, 2015 12:56 PM

Maybe you can find someone who has the same film with the soundtrack and you can get a copy of it to re-dub yours....I did get a second print of THUNDER and my plan was to re-record the soundtrack from one to the other.

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Osi Osgood
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posted June 03, 2015 01:21 PM

I was going to suggest that as well. Someone could make a copy on CD and then you could either sync it to you're film or add the actual soundtrack as your film already has the mag track.

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Joe Caruso
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posted June 03, 2015 02:54 PM

It's a shame someone would go through that trouble of erasing audio from a perfectly fine print, but I suppose nothing is impossible - Shorty

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Douglas Warren
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posted June 03, 2015 04:14 PM

Bill,Osi & Joe,
Thank you all for your thoughts and suggestions.
Douglas

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Bill Phelps
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posted June 03, 2015 04:17 PM

Actually the music during the titles is a little silly but whoever erased it didn't do a very good job and the print would have been better left alone. I am going to re-record it. I have not done any re-recording films before so these small projects will help me learn how.

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Joe Caruso
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posted June 04, 2015 06:45 AM

No, the music over and through the titles is a comfortable companion to what we are about to watch - Sort of a teaser, so to speak - Leave well enough alone - Blackhawk took great care and did well by it's consumers - Shorty

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Douglas Warren
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posted June 04, 2015 04:44 PM

I might consider adding music to mine but most likely will leave it be.The print is so nice and clean,and ran like a champ.It's a keeper for sure...Cheers,Douglas

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Bill Phelps
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posted June 04, 2015 05:49 PM

Rest easy Shorty, I'm going to re-record the original soundtrack back onto the film....I just think the over the title music choice as a little over the top...they could have picked something a little more subtle...that's all.

At some some point the film will be lovingly restored to it's original glory....

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