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Joseph Gerard
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 - posted January 15, 2017 12:04 PM            Edit/Delete Post 
Anybody got any ideas for digitizing magnetic sound from 8mm/super 8 and 16mm film?
Thanks

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted January 15, 2017 12:30 PM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
I don't think the results could ever be too exhilarating Joseph, not at least without the aid of professional studio software for advanced noise reduction / elimination and cleaning.

Even the very best professional magnetic recordings I've ever heard on much better tape sources than Super 8mm film, contain some audible noise.

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Steve Klare
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 - posted January 15, 2017 04:47 PM      Profile for Steve Klare   Email Steve Klare   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
We had company over the holidays and we saw Derann's Disney "The Small One" through my audio system.

-my Digital Age nephew said he was surprised analog sound could sound so good!

The tracks themselves should be about as good as a cassette tape. Where you get in trouble is with variability in stripe and recording quality.

My first tip would be that the projector and sound capture hardware should be plugged into the same outlet: ground loops are NOT your friend!

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Tom Spielman
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 - posted January 16, 2017 11:52 AM      Profile for Tom Spielman   Email Tom Spielman   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You'd need a film projector with sound. One with some type of audio jack(s) would be best but I suppose not absolutely necessary if you're good with wiring.

Then you need to connect the output from the projector to a computer. How you do it depends on the type of output your projector has and the sound input jacks your computer has. My computer uses a simple headphone jack for both input and output. If your computer doesn't currently have any sound input capability, there are plenty of USB solutions.

Your local electronic store would typically have the kind of cable or adaptors you need. Once it's plugged into your computer you need some software like "Audacity" to capture the audio. Audacity or other software usually has filters to reduce hiss and other noise.

Good Luck !

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Andrew Woodcock
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 - posted January 16, 2017 03:29 PM      Profile for Andrew Woodcock         Edit/Delete Post 
I used the method Tom describes to obtain a known "good" English track from a digest print, to then place onto a digest of another identical print with a different language.

I also used audacity cleaning software to "polish" the resulting sound as best I could.

The results? ...Well far from startling if I'm honest.
The guy I did this work for seemed happy enough with the fact he now had an English track of his film, but if I compare the sound I created on digital file of this, to those I've created from mag tracks recorded from digital source, well they are a league apart quite frankly.
Both for noise on the track and for audible quality, in my headphones at least.

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