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Gary P Cohen
Film Handler

Posts: 82
From: Lambertville, NJ, USA
Registered: Aug 2014

posted December 05, 2017 12:34 PM

Well, here I go again. I no sooner get my ELMO 600 repaired when I find issues with my two Chinons. The 4100 won't play at the proper 24 fps speed, even though there is a speed control knob, and the 9000 simply won't thread - has eaten quite a few feet of leader. Does anyone know of a repair man/place - Leon won't touch these machines. I have to say that I think the auto feed is the worst invention since auto-tune - why couldn't they have made any manual threading Super 8 projectors. Sorry, just frustrated. Anyway, my post about the ELMO ST1200 brought about a good discussion - anyone have any thoughts here?

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 05, 2017 05:30 PM

In my opinion it wouldn't be worth it to have the 4100 repaired. You can buy a like new one for $50.00 on Ebay now in the box.
The bulb isn't working but it sounds like the rest of it is. I know that projector well as it was my first Super 8 projector I ever had. And it is NOT kind to film. I chewed up many prints before I came upon Eumig and Elmo.
I think the bench fees just to look at the projector would be around $50. If you want back up machines better to get another 100% tested working unit off of Ebay.
One thing I have found out about the Chinon and Sankyo models is that they really were not designed to be repaired. A full tear down of the machine is whats needed in many cases. It was this way with the Sankyo 800 and also with the Chinon SS1200 I had.
And if you are looking for a manual thread projector you will have to go to the Italian brand of Fumeo for that. Great threading mechanism, kind to film, should last forever.. but very large and only for 220V use. So you would have to use it with a step up power convertor. For those machines you would be better off trying to have it fixed by yourself if you are handy at that sort of thing.

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Janice Glesser
Film Goddess

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From: Sunnyvale, CA USA
Registered: Sep 2011

posted December 05, 2017 11:51 PM

Hi Gary...not sure if you already tried this on the 4100...but if you remove the front cover there are 2 speed pots (18 & 24fps) you can adjust independently from the speed control knob on the front panel. This thread contains a picture of where the pots are located.
http://8mmforum.film-tech.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007585

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Gary P Cohen
Film Handler

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From: Lambertville, NJ, USA
Registered: Aug 2014

posted December 06, 2017 08:41 AM

Janice - thank you, I wasn't aware of that, and will try it!

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Gary P Cohen
Film Handler

Posts: 82
From: Lambertville, NJ, USA
Registered: Aug 2014

posted December 06, 2017 12:30 PM

Alan - I'm going to try adjusting the sound, but if not, I agree, the Chinons are not worth fixing.

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