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Author Topic: For sale: Elmo GS 1200 xenon. Totally refurbished SOLD
Ugo Grassi
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The projector was totally disassembled e re-mount. Everything is like new. It works perfectly, recording feature too. I may send other photos and videos.
It comes with 1.0 lens (not in pictures), and a shutter with extreme blades (45° instead 53° like it comes from factory) for best light. Under request at two or three blades.
A NEW xenon lamp (unused) like spare is included. This lamp is NOT the clone available by Wittner Kino, but a totally new production better then the genuine Toshiba lamp.
3500 euro.

[ December 03, 2015, 01:47 AM: Message edited by: Ugo Grassi ]

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Andrew Woodcock
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The Master Craftsman! [Wink]

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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You did it again, Maestro! Beautiful beast.

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Andrew Woodcock
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The Genius that is.. simply UGO!!! [Wink]

From bare projector frame to projection perfection!!! [Smile] [Smile]

Now does anyone have a spare three and half grand and a pair of Bilson Muffs? [Big Grin] [Big Grin]

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Tom Photiou
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Jesus H Christ, i wish i could do that!

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Ugo Grassi
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This was the first test to check if everything was working...
https://youtu.be/kovMs4jyu1o
and this is the final result (audio by home theatre system)...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_n_xcfrob-k

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Paul Browning
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Ugo, have you changed the front and back motors ?, they look bigger than originals, and so do the take up arms.

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Ugo Grassi
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Hello Paul, no I didn't change the arm motors with no genuine parts. That motors are the standard motors of the Elmo gs. The front motor seems bigger in the video.
To respect the genuine configuration is important...
I accomplish few innovations: a two or three blades shutter with smaller blades then the genuine one; modified load path to avoid scratches; modified heads pressure pins for the same reason.

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Paul Browning
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It's a lot of work Ugo, I hope you sell it for good money, whatever the outcome your a brave man taking on such a job on this beast, for sure. The guides on these are its downfall in there original design, at least you have address this issue, a pity Elmo didn't address it better when concerns were raised. I noticed in your write up that you have a new lamp, that's better than the original Toshiba xenon ?. I'm intrigued, tell me more of this new lamp Ugo.

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Ugo Grassi
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Since Superior Quartz started to produce new clones, I bought four or five lamps but I was never totally satisfied with their lamps.
So I was looking for a better solution
By a friend I received and address of a big Chinese firm. They asked a new Toshiba lamp unused to measure the electric parameters and after two or three months they sent to me the first stock.
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Time switching test
(the lamp worked for about 100 h before to run this test):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIjaJ-VZdSw
Light stability test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHeRzTXDtoU
Projection test:
(Alien, two blades shutter, 3mt screen, lens: Elmo 1.0 + Elmoscope 2x)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vEArC_Wzmw

I love these lamps! The black seems to be more black and the colors are brighter.
The lamps life should be about 800 hours. The colore temperature is 5600-6000, the IRC (or Ra) >95.
PS here other refurbishment pictures..
http://imgur.com/a/rgHji

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Andrew Woodcock
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Simply stunning images from your Alien feature there Ugo!

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Alan Rik
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That is a fair price for a machine that has been throughly refurbished. Well done Ugo!!

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Ugo Grassi
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3500 euro could appear an expensive price, but:
1) Wittner has no more spare clone lamps. That lamps was made by superior quartz (USA) and the quality was poor. Last price was 499 euro. My lamps are wonderful. There are many gs1200 xenon lovers that are using my lamps, in this forum and in the other one...
2) On ebay a gs1200 in mint state has a price between 2500 and 3000 euro, but you have to consider that however an unused machine has some capacitors exaust due to the age; probably discharges come from the potentiometers due to the age; like every GS there are scratches risks for the film; the genuine shutter decreases the light output.
My machine doesn't have these defects, and I give after sale support.

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Alexander Vandeputte
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Having bought two GS1200 machines - one xenon and one halogen - from Ugo, I can only say that all of the above is true! Machines are not only in perfect cosmetical condition, they are also performing well above the usual standards...
The few minor technical issues I have experienced (after all the GS1200 remains a sophisticated beast) have all been addressed in the best possible way.
Also his xenon lamps are truly fantastic!
I know this sounds like an ad but it's true.

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Andrew Woodcock
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I think it represents the kind of deal that Phil of CHC was trying to give everyone a few years back, by doing his level best to introduce a brand new Fumeo to market with the all important support for the years to come it offered.

Let's not forget these were not xenon machines either!

I think for anyone that can afford this, given the after sale support you are providing Ugo, as well as the abundance of time and tlc you have clearly given this machine....then overall, it represents one of the best investments one could make for those in the market for a top high end machine.

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Lee Mannering
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Manuele Bossolasco
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Three years ago, I've also bought GS Xenon from the great master Ugo Grassi and I can certainly say he did an absolutely incredible job on my projector!

I think 3500 Euro are worth the experience and carefulness over Ugo's work on these machines.

By the way, I can confirm Ugo's xenon lamp it's wonderful and it gives a very bright light (although my xenon has 3 blades).

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Andrew Woodcock
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Fine testimonials there for Ugo's magnificent work! [Wink]

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Antonio Costa Mota
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Let me join those who can only have words of praise towards.
Ugo]s fenomenal job on the Elmo GS/1200]s that we own. Mine,
I bought from him back in 2005. It is the standard halogen version but with an outstanding light output due to some extra
Wiring in the transformer. The projector has performed faultlessly since then. Bravo Ugo.All the best to you.

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Paul Adsett
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What an incredibly beautiful job Ugo has done on this machine. Every part looks brand new!

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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
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Andrew Woodcock
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I can only imagine when a machine is taken down to its frame and every component and circuit board has been examined, cleaned and inspected and tested,then carefully refitted or replaced as and when necessary, then you have as genuinely an "as good as new" machine as you're ever likely to find nowadays.

Factor in the fact also that Ugo has also either improved or modified the known flaws on these machines as well as improving the light output from the original arrangement by fitting a wider angled shutter, then surely this machine is actually an advancement on the original model purchased new in 1981 or thereabouts!

A superb achievement to be able to boast Ugo. Very well played sir [Wink]

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Paul Adsett
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And just imagine what a GS1200 xenon would cost today, if they were still being made. I would expect the cost to be well in excess of $75000.00.

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Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
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Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj

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Ugo Grassi
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The item is available no more. sold.

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Steven J Kirk
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Well done to Ugo and to the new owner. Keep up the great work Ugo! Keep the forum informed if you do another xenon or a halogen model rebuild.

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Andrew Woodcock
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Yes as Steven says, well done Ugo and the proud new owner!
Now that really is Cha Ching Pat!! [Wink]

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