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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 17, 2008 07:20 PM
The more I look into the possibility of getting a Blu Ray Disc player, the more I get turned off. I found out first hand today that it takes over 3 minutes for a BD player to load up and start playing the latest DVD's! Then there's all those useless features that come with the very latest BD players with BD live(at a steep price of course), such as picture-in-picture, live internet connection to useless juvenile extra features, etc etc. As far as I can discern, the experts right now do not like any of the stand alone DVD players and are recommending you purchase a PS3 player and use it as a BD player, but of course the PS3 has no IR remote, requires lots of menu navigation, and who wants a gaming system as the basis of a home theater ? So here we have the latest technology, with no decent BD player yet on the market! What a damned mess! Sound s like HD-DVD was far superior all round for movie buffs. Blue Ray Disc player anyone ? No thank you!
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Rob Young.
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1633
From: Cheshire, U.K.
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted June 18, 2008 05:43 AM
Paul, I think Steven makes a very good point; it is what ends up on the screen that matters.
I have recently bought an HD projector and for now am running it with a bargain price Toshiba HD-DVD player and buying very cheap HD-DVD movies. The reason I haven't gone Blu-Ray just yet is that I think the format still has to settle. The latest Panasonic players are really, I think, the first to be sensibly priced for a future proof, quality, machine; I think these are just the beginning of a new wave of better, affordable players.
But considering that the actually quality on screen of HD-DVD and Blu-Ray is similar, I would say that (based upon what I have seen from HD-DVD) that HD material is vastly, vastly superior to standard def and that if Blu-Ray survives and thrives then it is a must for anyone projecting larger images.
Although I also believe you get what you pay for. The Toshiba upscales standard discs quite well, but occasionally the result is worse than the 576i picture from my older, much more expensive Sony! Hopefully good quality Blu-Ray players will also upscale better. I have read that the opinion concerning the Playstation 3 is that it is a bargain in that it does play Blu-Ray movies well AND is also a great games console, but if it's films you're interested in, give it a miss as the quality isn't as good as stand alone players. Basically this is a format still in it's infancy.
As for connecting to the internet, I'm with Paul in that I'm not really interested in accessing the aditional features, but would add that internet connectivity is a God send in being able to upgrade projectors and players. Only today I am about to upgrade the Toshiba because, as good as HD stuff is, it isn't sending the projector a 24 fps image. Hopefully a simple upgrade via internet will fix this...imagine trying to fix such issues before internet connectivity; so it isn't all about silly extras!
That plus I have read that in the future, it may be possible to sit down and watch HD trailers for bang up to date films via your Blu-Ray player and internet connection, before you settle down for the main feature on Blu-Ray disc...that's sort of enticing, isn't it?
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted June 18, 2008 12:16 PM
Probably the best thing is to sit this out for about another year. We all know that the $500.00 Sony BD player of today will be selling in Wal-Mart for less than a $100.00 in a couple of years. The problem is though , how many people (like me) have been turned totally off from Blu Ray because of a) the unavailability of a good, no frills, player at a decent price of say less than $200.00, b) the the much higher price of BD movies compared with the same DVD movie, and c) the general lack of great classic films in the BD catalogues. All in all, not a great start for Blu-Ray, and you have to wonder how long it will survive.
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peter booth
Master Film Handler
Posts: 258
From: scarborough,north yorkshire
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted June 20, 2008 09:46 AM
Hi,I recently bought the Sony BDP S300 from Amazon for £249,it came with 6 free discs,Spiderman Trilogy and Pirates Of The Caribbean Trilogy.First class results on the screen with improved sound.After the initial set up,programme,from switching on to playing a disc must only be 90 seconds.Paul Foster sells a lot of Blu ray films at reasonable prices,I bought Rio Bravo from him for £11.99 plus post.In HMV they were charging in excess of £20 for this title,I don't find Amazon cheap unless its a second hand disc,regards,Peter.
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