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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005

posted July 03, 2008 06:11 PM

Hey guys, I just recieved my print of "Starchaser: The Legend of Orin" on 35MM in the mail today (big ass package! Hee hee!)

It appears that if this was projected, it must have been once or twice, as I see no wear on it at all. It is also absolutely spot on color! Not bad for 23.00 dollars.

This kind of 3D is fascinating. I know that this was probably already talked about, but each 35MM frame contains two scope images, one on top of the other. I would be fascinated to hear from forum members as to how the glasses or such actually "glued" the two frames together.

I have thought that with the proper work ahead of time, this could be made into a 16MM negative for Super 8. Here's my theory ...

You make a special viewfinder (I'll call it that) which will mask off half of each frame, and adjust the "sprocket mechanism, so that the scope frame is exactly in the middle ...

THEN ...

Take an anamorphic scope lense and "resqueeze" the scope image to make a scope negative, and you can happilly make non 3D scope prints on Super 8.

Huh? huh?

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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From: France
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posted July 04, 2008 01:10 AM

Osi, you need a special lens holding a contraption made out of special prisms and polarizing filters to project the image in 3D.
Actually I think that your film could be projected with the 1:1.85 matte, with the frame setting pushed either to the top or the bottom. This is a simple assumption, as there could be issues with the loop and sound, though.

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Ricky Daniels
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: London & Kent UK
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posted July 05, 2008 06:31 AM

Osi,

So you are in possession of a 'Single Strip Over-and-Under Stereo' 35mm print but what you need for projection is a special lens like this one... http://www.stereoscopy.com/3d-movie-magic ...and a silver screen! Good luck finding the lens, they do crop up from time to time on the Bay. Make sure you're getting an OVER-and-UNDER lens and not the SIDE-by-SIDE lens as the SIDE-by-SIDE lens also incorporates 2:1 anamorphic expansion! [Eek!]

I have this title on VHD disc imported from Japan in field sequential 3-D along with others which took ages to locate. It's not too bad a movie, enjoy!

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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted July 05, 2008 09:43 AM

Thanks for that link!

It is interesting, even if only to see how the 3D works!

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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From: France
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posted July 08, 2008 12:58 AM

Osi, theory confirmed. Someone I work with told me yesterday that he owns a print of the 3D film "Metalstorm" and projects it by using a partially masked 1.85 matte and the frame setting pushed to the top.

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Osi Osgood
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From: Mountian Home, ID.
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posted July 08, 2008 10:01 AM

Thanks Jean.

If I ever get the chance to actually manufacture Super 8 prints, (I'll probably finally have thwe money right when all available Super 8 processing and film lab equipment are in the scrap heap!), I'll do that masking, but then, in order to get that scope super 8 image, I'll use my scope lense, a "reverse print" the negative. I don 't know if that's what it would be called, but I saw a documentary about it, (they did it for the restoration of "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly", from Techniscope to Cinemascope).

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