8mm Forum: Sound exchange (trade)

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Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 26, 2005, 01:29 AM:

Perhaps this is a fun(ny) idea. This idea come when I was enthusiastically watching a film with a non English languange and I ended up with a lot of confusion for the story.

Therefor, why we don't make a specific forum to allow us exchange the sound. We are very lucky to live in this modern technology, so we can record our reel in MP3 files and trade with other people through the internet. Say....I have a germany sound 400 reel of John Wayne movie which I prefer in English. And someone out there has that title in english version. Both, then, can trade by providing what the film lists they can trade. I believe a lot of people collect movies in different languages, that actually they don't want it.

The most interesting of this idea is people should trade the sound through this forum. Once they upload the sound, it would remain in this site. It means other people can freely download it. The more people trading, the more our chance to transfer our unwanted languages to the preferable one.

For my understanding, one 400 reel (16 minutes) will take around 8 mb for stereo sound or less if it is in mono sound. To save the space, we can zip it to have 50% less.

Next step is trading the dolby surround sound that some people have re-recording their films.

Now, the question is for the moderator, what is the maximum capacity for this site and would you allow us to do that?

winbert

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on April 26, 2005, 06:28 PM:

I'm afraid that won't be possible, mostly for the simple reason that movie soundtracks, just like music (albums and singles), are copyright-protected. So uploading and making them available here would constitute piracy - a particularly touchy area for a US-based site. I do love your idea, though, but if anything it would have to be done by physically mailing CDs or tapes between members, strictly privately and outside the scope of this forum.

On a side note (forgive me but I gotta say this!) - it's pointless to zip an MP3 file as all redundant data has already been removed from the MP3 and any attempts at further compression will yield a ratio of just about zero. [Cool]

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on April 28, 2005, 06:20 AM:

I think, because majority movies that were dubbed into non-english sound are extracts or selected scenes, then they were released not by big studios, but small companies like Marketing Films, Ken Film, AIP, Piccolo etc. I checked my Marketing films, all boxes say "copyright by Marketing Film Bochum". Now, how can an obsolete company still hold the copyright? Moreover, since this movies were extracted and packed almost 25 years ago, do you think they still hold the copyright? I don't think copyright is forever, there is an expiration date, unless the copyright holders keep paying some fees. I know some old cartoon movies (incl. some Popeye's)now are categorised public domain. In Australia those kind of movies are compiled in a Disc or VHS (without paying copyright) and sold legally in Supermarket.

Your comment...

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on April 28, 2005, 07:47 PM:

I don't know all the answers - I can only speak for the USA, and I do know that copyrights generally last much longer than 25 years, although yes, they do expire as you said.
As for Marketing-Film, I believe they have/had a copyright on the boxes rather than the actual film - that copyright is held by whichever studio produced the movie, be it Universal, 20th Century Fox, or even any small independent studio.
But the point I was really trying to make is simply that this forum cannot support an illegal activity (and trading movie soundtracks online would be illegal, at least for non-public domain films), and if it did anyway, chances are it might get shut down - and then all of us will be between a rock and a hard place... [Eek!]

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