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Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 24, 2007, 04:22 PM:

OK, I am totally over my GS1200. It's Xmas eve I had a film show planned for tomorrow and the whole lamp casing just gave out. I thought the bulb had just died but when I opened it up the metal piece that has a spring attached to apply pressure to the connector pin on the bulb has broken off and needs to be replaced. It's been one thing after another and I think I'm done. Besides the new bulb problem, the switch that releases the top threader was giving out and would not release anymore and there's annoying popping in the sound again. Two things that had been "repaired" less than a year ago. I am definetly looking for another stereo 1200 projector and this one will be put away in the closet. Any suggestions on which projector I should go with? There has to be one that's more reliabe than this!

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 24, 2007, 04:43 PM:

Hi Brian, I`d settle for 800 feet capacity and go for a bauer 510 or 610 in little used order, usually very relaible.
Best Mark.
PS sorry about the GS.
There are new 510`s quite cheap from canada at the moment just out of interest.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 24, 2007, 04:53 PM:

Thanks for the tip. I will look into that Bauer projector. Do you have any contact info on where I can order one (Canada or wherever)?

The only problem is I have a number of 1200 reels... I guess I could cut them down to 800's. That would be less frustrating than dealing with this GS1200 piece of junk (can you tell I'm a little angry right now?). I just can't believe the bad luck I've had with this machine. I've spent $600 dollars on repairs this year alone and it still doesn't work.

One more question: Is there an Elmo Repair genius somewhere in California? If so, please post his information. I am losing faith in everyone I have used on the East Coast.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 24, 2007, 05:24 PM:

Hi Brian sounds like you`ve put enough cash that way already, I can`t do links here for some reason, but if your email is Up I`ll try to find the canada ebay sale and send it to you. Very nice whisper quiet machines.
Best Mark.
Just found it they ahve free shipping to the US at the moment 477 canadian dollars.
Did you get the email OK brian and you can get an excellent xenovaron for these fairly cheap as well 1,1 11-30mm but the 1,2 usually standard is superb anyway.
Good luck if you decide to give it a whirl.

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on December 24, 2007, 05:58 PM:

Hey Brian,
I am sure we all feel your pain!
I believe that these projectors are like cars. I think you have a lemon on your hands! I have had a number of GS projectors and only of them use to give me grief. All the other ones have been great. Your best bet would be to send it to Kev! Well..it would be good but expen$$$ive!
You may want to keep on the lookout for a GS with very little mileage OR you can see if you can find a nice Beaulieu 708EL Stereo. The sound is not as nice through the internal speakers but I hear the sound from the line outs is pretty good. And the picture, steadiness, and robust motor and quiet running of one in good order is pretty nice. They have an adjustable 2/3 blade shutter and when set on the 2 blade the light is brighter than the standard GS1200 and closer to the Xenon..minus the blue Xenon light of course.
Or you can try to get John to sell you the Fumeo 9145 Xenon that his grandfather has? [Smile]

Good luck and sorry to hear about the projector woes!

Here is your Bauer T510 link:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BAUER-T510-MICROCOMPUTER-STEREO-SUPER-8-PROJECTOR-NEW_W0QQitemZ320198121299QQihZ011QQcategoryZ15255QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on December 24, 2007, 05:59 PM:

Hi Brian,Here is the link Mark was refering to-
http://cgi.ebay.ca/BAUER-T510-MICROCOMPUTER-STEREO-SUPER-8-PROJECTOR-NEW_W0QQitemZ320198121299QQihZ011QQcategoryZ15255QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Best of luck and Merry Christmas

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 24, 2007, 06:12 PM:

We`re all at it, I sent Brian an email ebay link and you both did it here at about the same time.
Whats 477 canadian in US by the way, sounds like a really good option to me, new sort of thing super 8 machine in 2007, imagine if factory new and made now it would probably be $2000 at least if not much more.
Bes Mark.
PS I meant to say the Bauers are very very kind to film and no areas like the GS that wear quickly. I knew a chap ran one for 10 years most nights and most of his films went through very often, I bought some and all top order. When I`ve had the machines too never cause marks if all is well.With the 1,1 they are very well good enough in the home.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 24, 2007, 07:02 PM:

Thanks for all your posts... I am trying not to let my projector woes ruin Xmas. My dogs are looking at me sadly right now cause they know how upset/mad I am... I have to turn this around.

Anyway, the Bauer looks cool but I am hesitant for two reasons... does it do variable speed? I think that's essential for recording which I do a lot of. Also, the output jacks look problematic. I think I need them to be RCA's rather than that funky euro jack.

As for my GS, yes I would LOVE to send it to Kev but I think it would be cheaper to fly him in! I will probably just send it to Leon Norris again. I love Leon, but for some reason all his fixes are only lasting a few months. Oh well, I guess it's just a "lemon" and I have to live with it. But when it really starts taking the joy out of this great hobby I think it's time to get rid of it...

Happy Holidays to everyone!

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on December 24, 2007, 09:34 PM:

Hi Brian,

By any chance have you talked to these people?

http://www.eltekrepair.com/contact_info.htm

-I honestly don't know much about them (...him?), but at least they/him are/is local.

Maybe at the end of the day what you really have is a parts machine which is looking for a better condition machine to keep supplied with spares.

Posted by Joerg Niggemann (Member # 611) on December 25, 2007, 02:42 AM:

Brian, did you ever think of a Chinon SS1200? 1200 ft reels, 150W lamp, variable speed and good re-recording capability. Also kind to film and very reliable if yo get one in good condition, a real "working horse".

Joerg

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on December 25, 2007, 09:16 AM:

Hi Brian, sorry to hear of your problems with the GS. I would say that if Leon can't fix it then it's probably past the point of no return. Besides the projector recommendations already been given, may I suggest a Eumig 938 Stereo, which is a joy to use for re-recording - superb sound quality as well.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 25, 2007, 10:18 AM:

Paul - I would love to find a Eumig 938. I've been thinking of owning one ever since I saw yours in the "Armchair Odeons" DVD! But it seems that they don't turn up that often. If anyone knows of one for sale please send me the info.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 25, 2007, 07:53 PM:

I'd love an all paid for trip to the US especially as i have never been over there and want to do so in the near future.

Brian this is such a sad story. I have had GS1200's which have been on their last legs and bought them back up to A1 condition so I know that there is no way that this GS needs be given up on.

First I would replace both microswitches that are involved with the autothread system. The one next to the autothread release solenoid and the one at the rear as the film emerges from the film guide to the take up reel.

That will cure those problems.

Get the lamp socket replaced and that should sort the lamp problems and then finally have the record/play switches cleaned with a suitable cleaner/lube. If the popping still continues then the STK439 output IC is faulty. This is common on the GS and is caused by the legs on that IC becoming loose where they exit the IC's body.
This was not an Elmo problem but down to the design of the Sanyo IC which Elmo would have had little control over.

The above should cure all the problems on your machine. Anyone repairing GS1200's will know of these problems and should have been able to sort them for you. Early STK439 output IC's had straight legs but later IC's had curved legs to allow for movement which you do get when the machines are moved and vibrated about etc. I think a change of the sound out put IC is now the most probable cause of your popping noises.

Just wish I was closer to you then you wouldnt have to be looking around for a new machine.

I still claim that there is no reason to to have to bin any GS as most probs can be sorted.

Kev.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 25, 2007, 09:24 PM:

Kev - Thanks for your encouraging words. Yes, I am planning on having my GS1200 fixed again. I haven't totally given up on it... I just can't believe the bad luck I've had recently. Oh well, and if it breaks again I am definitely sending you a plane ticket!

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 26, 2007, 05:49 AM:

Lets hope you get it sorted but just in case I'm going to get my bags packed ready for the off [Big Grin]

Kev.

Posted by Gary Crawford (Member # 67) on December 26, 2007, 07:06 AM:

Brian...I know everyone is suggesting replacement machines. I don't think anyone has yet suggested at least backing up your hopefully repaired GS with a ST1200HD. You can get stereo out of the monitor jacks, if running through an amp...you still have 1200 foot capacity...and these machines are built much more simply and ruggedly than the finicky GS's. Also, they can be had on ebay for a lot less money. I've still got the one I bought new in 1974 or so..and it's still running. Belts have been the only replaced parts. Yes, the wattage on the bulb is a bit less, but with an f1.1 or 1.0 lens and good bulbs, the picture is quite acceptable. And reliable.....that's the word for the St1200's. Reliable..and a lot easier to fix. You can get three of these used for the cost of one GS on ebay. And chances are they will be operational, save for maybe belts.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on December 26, 2007, 05:08 PM:

Hi Brian
I dont want to spoil Kevs trip to the US [Wink]

to fix your projector, bit here is a simple fix you can do yourself, I carried it out before I joined the forum and it still works.

The general layout, notice the solenoid in the centre of the picture, well this is what you do.

You simply wrap an electrical tie-wrap around the solenoid holding the mechanical release in, and thats it, no more threading problems its now manual, all you do is hold the threading button down until the film passes the bottom sprocket, the cost a few cents time about 15 minutes and thats it fixed for life, its not the proper fix but it works.

Regarding the lamp holder that should be straight forward, if you cant get the original part then a alternative should do, there are plenty of different lamp holders around that would do the job, the one in the following photo is for an external power supply that I use to give you an idea.

Brian give it a go, darn sight cheaper than flying Kev across the "Atlantic" sorry Kev. [Wink]

Graham.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 27, 2007, 04:51 AM:

But they are the easy probs to sort. What about his sound prob? he still needs that sorted [Wink]

Kev.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 27, 2007, 07:27 AM:

Graham - Thanks for the detailed advice with the photos... but I have already packed up my GS and UPS is picking it up today and bringing it back to Leon Norris to give it another overhaul. Leon and I had a chat last night and, yes, the sound is the big problem. Since he fixed it less than a year ago he's afraid the whole sound board is deteriorating and could cost $600 just to replace that one part. He won't know until he gets it open and looks inside. I'm hoping that's not the case because if it costs over $800 to fix it I think I'm going to pass and look for another machine. I'll post his findings when I hear back from him.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 27, 2007, 09:21 AM:

Blimey Brian are you sure you don`t fancy that bauer or a nice HD etc.
Best Mark.
PS Kev did you get my email.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on December 27, 2007, 05:15 PM:

Hi Brian
Hopefully you will get it fixed without to much expense, was thinking [Roll Eyes]

about your "popping" noise through your speakers, does this happen when you use the main switch on or off, and does this happen with other electrical appliance's nearby, the reason I ask is that I get it as well but not to the point of real concern, I use an external amplifier connected to the projectors "Aux Out" well my thinking is, and someone please correct me if I am wrong, is that from the playback head, sound is amplified in the pre-amp, and from there it goes to the main amp "power amp" and onto the speakers. now [Roll Eyes]

any problems with the "main amp" popping etc will come across in both internal and external speakers, also the "moni socket" as well, as all this stuff is being fed from the "main amp", however if you use the projectors "Aux Out" socket you are by-passing the main-amp, and because you are feeding your external amplifier from the projectors "pre-amp" only, the sound should be OK, well thats my theory, [Eek!]

anyway hope it all works out fine I have three GS1200 and from time to time they can play up but in general they are a good projector, all the best.

Graham. [Smile]

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 28, 2007, 02:12 AM:

If it’s any consolation Brian it’s not just the GS that goes wrong although malfunctions can often feel as though certain machines are prone to it. We are touring the UK at present filming Pantomimes and we often see the latest sound desks playing up, £30,000 video projection set-ups up the spout so it’s not all Elmo problems. I am keeping my fingers crossed the HD camera keeps going…

Best wishes
Lee.

Posted by Jean-Christophe Deblock (Member # 792) on December 28, 2007, 04:52 AM:

HI everyone,
I also had a GS1200. But from the beginning, I have had some problems with it.
First there was a speed problem. Then the recording problem. Then a problem of scratching film. My last utilisation was because I've scratch a whole full feature film with a great green line at the center of the picture. This was done after the window projection.
Now, I'm using the ST1200HD with 150w, and 1200ft reels. I think it's a beter machine for recording, projection etc...
I understand you, Brian.
Jean-Christophe.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on December 28, 2007, 05:30 AM:

I had terrible problems with one of my GS1200's in the past but now it's the best machine I've ever had.

Yes, it's the HTI converted machine and Bill Parsons had it for six months whilst he repaired everything that was wrong with it and tracked down all the parts to bring it back to life. It had the Gemini lamp before (a conversion that was made generally available in the 80's by the Widescreen Centre) and I didn't really want to have it returned as a bog standard 200w machine - although that would have been a pretty instant fix, not to mention much cheaper.

It had some other problems besides the power supply for the Gemini lamp dying but Bill put all these right and now it's functioned for over two years without any necessity for maintenance. And my machines tend to work rather hard.

In my opinion the only alternative to the GS1200 is the ST1200. These really are workhorses. But I've come across plenty of them that are knackered beyond comprehension and require major surgery to get them back to full functionality. There are better machines out there such as the Fumeo line of models and other projectors have the odd facility which is possibly better than a GS1200. But nothing comes with all the GS1200 functionality and as generally available as the GS. Therefore the GS1200 stands the best chance of being maintained longest into the future. Parts are being remanufactured for them too so that tells you what is happening.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 28, 2007, 01:05 PM:

As I said earlier it is most probably down to the sound output IC. This certainly does NOT mean that the main circuit board needs replacing. I have never ever seen a problem where this board needs to be replaced and I have had a few which have had major burn ups take place.
I did have one thought though Brian and that is that the GS std machine does suffer from picking up mains borne interference such as that caused by central heating thermostats etc. The IC problem tends to be more like loud scratching noises until it dies completely.

There is a cure for the mains borne interference which Elmo carried out on the xenon version of these machines but never on the std versions. Now that we have the winter months these mains borne interference problems become more noticeable.

Just a thought...

Kev

[ December 28, 2007, 04:56 PM: Message edited by: Kevin Faulkner ]

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on December 28, 2007, 03:45 PM:

Brian,

Here is a consideration, and I believe
that they are located in California.

super8stuff(at sign)netzero(dot)net

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 28, 2007, 04:58 PM:

Hi kev, did you see my post, I think your spam filters are holding my mails again.
Best Mark.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 28, 2007, 06:55 PM:

Mark, I'll check that out. K.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 28, 2007, 07:18 PM:

Thanks Kev, I need " The Knowledge "
Best Mark.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on December 28, 2007, 10:12 PM:

Gee, I'm not having a single problem with my EUMIG 926.

hee hee hee.

Posted by Keith Ashfield (Member # 741) on December 29, 2007, 12:38 AM:

Now, now Osi, don't gloat - you are tempting fate here ! You are in danger of "Murphys' Law" - "When it mustn't go wrong - it will !!" [Wink]

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on December 29, 2007, 01:50 AM:

Osi,

Don't gloat indeed. This no time for levity.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 29, 2007, 06:06 AM:

" Whats Levity"

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 29, 2007, 08:14 AM:

Graham.
Thank goodness someone is using pictures to try and help this guy. Images do say so much more than words don’t ya think chaps, and we are in the pictures game.

Sometimes Brian its better the devil you know. I would stick to the GS and try to get fixed chum or investigate yourself.
Best wishes.

Posted by Josef Grassmann (Member # 378) on December 29, 2007, 09:19 AM:

I fully agree with Kevin.
We have never replaced whole circuit-boards.
There is really no need to replace circuit-boards!
Most GS1200 are affected with the popping sound problem.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 29, 2007, 09:39 AM:

I hate to read mails about projector faults but moreover nice folk experiencing them. Let’s hope someone near Brian can lend him a hand. The internet brings us all nearer but we still struggle when it comes to hands on.

Brian. If you do go the “change a board” route I have a friend that is breaking a GS1200 and will ask him if I can forward his email to you which may help a little. BUT, you may not need to change an entire board.

Not sure what this popping noise is our Josef is eluding to but I don’t think my MK3 does it.

Take care now.

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on December 30, 2007, 12:09 AM:

Brian,

Best wishes for a successful solution to the GS.
Although that I have not encountered this issue,
I would not replace the board at this time without
the fine troubleshooting advice by our Forum members.
My GS will sometimes make a pop noise when the power
switch is turned on, but as stated, there are additional
issues with your projector.
Please do not give up the ship.

Mark,
You had asked "What's Levity?"
As Ollie said in the film Beau Hunks...

Ollie:...Levity is a synonomon. You know what a synonomon is, synonomon is like cinamon.

(There is a knock on the door)
Stan replies: someone's knocking on the phone [Confused]

Ollie replies:That's Levity!

Stan says: Hello Mr. Levity? [Confused]

Ollie replies: Open the door!, "Hello Mr. Levity, Hm, Hm, Hmm" [Mad]

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on December 30, 2007, 01:39 AM:

I think replacing the board may be a bit extreme. Its like when some computer part fails...say the DC board. Yes you could just replace the DC board but Dell will just say, "Replace the Logic Board". With Leon he could be there for days looking for the problem and trying to anticipate what could go next. So the easiest solution would be to replace the board. But not necessarily the BEST solution.
If everyone here remembers I had a problem with the take up of the GS not really having enough torque. It was suggested that I replace the entire voltage regulator board. This was $69 plus installation and shipping so it looked to be around $125 or more. I decided to take off the board and voila! It turned out to be one transistor on the board.
If all else fails you can try Duall Camera in NYC. They worked on one of my GS Xenon's that had a problem with the second channel so it was a mono machine basically. It was suggested to replace the entire audio board as everything that could visibly be replaced was and still no go. Finally I took it to Duall and they found the problem in one day. It was a broken solder connection. But they charged me $400 +.
Lets keep these babies running!

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 30, 2007, 04:56 AM:

As I said earlier these sort of problems on the sound are either down to dirty record switches, Interference problems or failing Sound output IC. All can be sorted without board replacement.

On the std GS Elmo used a straight forward capacitor to filter mains borne interfernce. You can see this strapped across the mains transformer. In the later Xenon machine they used a small suppressor which contains 2 capacitors and a resistor. The unit is again soldered across the transformer but a third (centre) terminal is grounded.
I tried one of these on a std GS which was really bad at picking up interference from light switches and a fridge and it completely cured the problem.

Maybe this tip will be useful for others with perhaps interference problems. At the moment the RS components website is down so I cant give a link to the item I'm talking of. I will when it's back up again.

I hope you manage to get it sorted this time Brian.

Kev.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 30, 2007, 07:54 AM:

Hi Michael yes I was quoting Stan, great scene. I think he also says that great line " somebody knocking on the phone" is that right, have`nt seen it for a while and only got it on dvd I`m afraid,
Best Mark.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on December 30, 2007, 03:53 PM:

Hi Kev
Your mod with the two capacitors and resistor is a good idea, this would take care of the annoying interference that many of us have with the GS1200. looking forward to hearing what parts are required.

I was reading an old "Movie Maker", and came across an article of a GS1200 owner who had sound problems, it was interesting to read that by accident he had connected the projector to 4ohm speakers with the result of a bad hum on the balance track, the reply from "Movie Maker" 1984 was as follows,

You may have blown the output integrated circuit especially if you had played the sound at a high level, many transistor amplifiers will take 4ohm loads, and some are protected electronically against overload, but the GS1200 is not one of these. The damage has been caused by to high a current flowing through the output transistor in the i.c. when connected to a low impedance load. This extra current causes heating of the transistor and usually this permits the transistor to pass extra current, heating it further until it fails.

"Movie Maker" recomended the projector to be returned to Borehamwood for repair.

Its interesting to read such articles and it highlights the danger of connecting the GS1200 to speakers with an impedance of under 8ohms.

Regards Graham.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 31, 2007, 05:53 AM:

This will be the case with a lot of projectors. What some people don't take into account when especially using mono projecters is that if they connect 2 speakers to the output (to put on both sides of their screen)they will half the impedance so a pair of 8ohm speakers will present an impedance of only 4ohm at the output of the projector and cause exactly the problem that Movie Maker wrote about.
Its far better to connect the speakers in series and let the amp see 16ohm. This will give a slightly lower sound level but much safer for the amp.

When you use the Elmo speakers they are rated at 16ohm imp each so that the amp if stereo such as the GS 800 or 1200 sees 16ohm on each output but if used in mono will give 8ohm. Much safer way of doing things.

Kev.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on December 31, 2007, 06:44 AM:

The main circuit board (computer) has just packed up in our washing machine. The expert engineer advised us to buy a new washer as in the long term it would be a better bet. What a shame we can’t waltz out and buy a new GS1200 with modern refinements. These washing machine computers are built non serviceable so it’s a buy a new computer or new washer. Is this environmental friendly I ask myself?

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 31, 2007, 12:31 PM:

Just a quick update: Leon has my GS and called last night. He says the three minor problems (micro-switches, lamp casing, scratching) can all be easily fixed but the sound board will take him a couple of days to figure out. He says the board the looks worn and the popping sound is really bad. He's scaring me a bit telling me the projector may just be better off as parts for another GS. He has to take the sound board apart piece by piece until he can pinpoint what's blown or causing the popping. So I've still got my fingers crossed... and yes, wouldn't it be nice to be able to just go out and buy another Elmo at the local camera shop?! Those were the days. Meantime, Happy New Year everyone...

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 31, 2007, 01:25 PM:

Brian, Suggest he looks at the legs on the STK output IC. I have seen this problem many times. The legs work loose in the IC's casing. This could save him a lot of time especially if its not making the noises via the Aux out sockets.

I have plenty of these IC's if he needs one.

Kev.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on December 31, 2007, 01:29 PM:

Thanks Kev - I will give him your suggestion. I think the popping was coming through on the aux outs, though not as bad as the internal speaker. Anything's worth a shot at this point.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on December 31, 2007, 03:31 PM:

In which case it could just be dirty record switches. Sometimes they can be very stubborn.

Kev.

Posted by Alex Fox (Member # 94) on January 02, 2008, 12:05 PM:

Hi.Kevin are these STK439 ic avaiable in the U.K. (i.e Radio Shack)and at what price.Thank you Alex

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on January 02, 2008, 05:09 PM:

No they are not available at normal outlets. I tracked the ones down I have by using the internet and looking amongst the main electronic distributors such as Donberg in Ireland. If I found a distributor with a couple left then I bought his remaining stock. I suppose I have about a dozen of them at present including the STK443 for the GS Xenon.

http://www.donberg.ie/

Kev.

Posted by Brian Hendel (Member # 61) on January 09, 2008, 07:39 PM:

Just a quick update on my GS1200 drama. Heard from Leon last night and he says he had to order transistors and didn't know how long it would take. I couldn't ask questions since it was a phone message and I haven't been able to get a hold of him... Sooo I still don't really know how serious things are. Does transistors sound like a possible solution for all the sound problems I'm having? I still have my fingers crossed...I'm starting to miss my old GS though and it sounds like it's not coming back to me for a while. [Frown]

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on January 09, 2008, 08:13 PM:

Hi Brian, Lets hope he makes a more nominal charge this time considering all you have spent etc etc.
Did you ever get that $3 I sent you towards it all.
Best Mark.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on January 10, 2008, 05:07 AM:

Transistors are a possibilty. The GS uses a lot of transistors as switches in various parts of the control circuitry. Not had too many probs with transistors in the Audio department but lets now keep our fingers crossed for you.

Kev.

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