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Posted by Adam Deierling (Member # 2307) on March 15, 2011, 09:49 AM:

I want to get some people's opinion on this. I am a filmmaker and I am sure many of you on here are as well. Does anyone think that there is a market for our short films to be released and sold on super 8? I think it would be really cool. It would be a great way to get our films seen and our names out. Plus it would be cool to have a scope print of my very own film. Any thoughts out there?

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on March 15, 2011, 10:23 AM:

Adam, I think some people had done it. I knew some feature were entirely made on super 8. But this kind of movie is something that more experimental or indie film makers taste.

I am afraid this kind of film is not what most collectors will buy here.

We buy box office films.

my 2 cents though,

Posted by Adam Deierling (Member # 2307) on March 15, 2011, 10:28 AM:

Well I'm talking more about short films that may have a marketable audience. Something not necessarily shot on super 8. I just think it would be cool to have a choice of films to buy that are not all "studio" films. You know what I mean? But I get what your saying. Most people want to pay money for big picture stuff...

Posted by Gerald Santana (Member # 2362) on March 15, 2011, 11:47 AM:

Adam,
I like your idea, but like Winbert suggested most Forum members are looking for films that are studio films. However, once the film SUPER 8 is released later this year by Spielberg and JJ Abrams, there may be a whole new ballpark opening up, but let's keep our fingers crossed.

As a reaction to my interest in home-films as "non-studio" feature films to showcase in the future, I started an all-ages film club here in Berkeley for others to join. We are planning our first official screenings this summer, and expect to show home-movies that make sense, not just random shots of mom putting on her make-up for the camera.

if you have a film ready by this time, I would gladly promote from our site and facebook page. The next step of course, would be starting or joining a club of your own in Ohio and see if there are others in your area interested and get the "word of mouth" started...

Gerald

Posted by Adam Deierling (Member # 2307) on March 15, 2011, 12:06 PM:

Gerald,
I have been making movie for the last 11 years. Mostly with my buddies in my back yard. from 2005-2008 I lived in LA where i went to film school and made a shirt Sci-Fi film. It was a prity cool experince. You can see what they look like here:

Film School Project "Genesis" (Shot on 16mm):
http://www.vimeo.com/10634618

My most recent film made with my buddies in our back yard. "The Great Void" (Shot on HDV):
http://www.vimeo.com/7422042

Let me know what you think!

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on March 15, 2011, 01:27 PM:

Hi,

there have been some "amateur films" that have been printed and sold in a "larger" number, e.g. a roller-coaster-ride in Scope. But that was 10 years ago. Not sure if there's still a market. (Most likely only when the film is short and hence cheap...)

However you would have to use negative filmstock (e.g. Kodak Vision3) to get prints done these days (made by Andec in Germany).

Jörg
P.S.: There's a "Rollercoaster Ride" mentioned on http://www.jamessalter.me.uk/personal/stuff/8mm/ . Not sure if this is the amateur film I mentioned above...

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on March 15, 2011, 01:59 PM:

I have a print of a 400' release called 'Willow Place' that's in this line and was released in the 1980s by Perry's Movies, so I'd certainly be receptive to hearing about any such releases. But I'd have to agree that it's a small market nowadays (albeit one that isn't spoilt for choice with regard to new product) so if you proceeded, I think it would have to be for your satisfaction rather than being profit-making. And any release that's more than a one reeler is liable to cost so much that it would have to be extremely entertaining to sell. Even something shorter would be doing well if it sold more than about 10 copies.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on March 16, 2011, 04:41 AM:

I think the Rollercoaster Ride we all know was released in the mid-80's Joerg so it's almost 30 years ago now. It was actually filmed flat and blown up to 'Scope during the printing process - and that's why the print ain't too brilliant. Jolly good fun though and very repeatable.

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on March 16, 2011, 05:29 AM:

Hi Adam. I was one of a small number of people who started to produce short subjects for Super 8 release in the 80’s/90’s. Films at this time were either produced by individuals or small film groups who were enthusiastic in the main about film. As a guide today you would find a market for super 8 releases if the subject matter were anything to do with film, cinema which is what I found to be successful. Before you choose a shooting format I’d urge you to contact a lab to see what the preferred format to master from today is. We were lucky 20 plus years ago in that small labs such as Perry’s could make a internegative from Super 8 and 16mm down to double run 8 which was very economical. Today it will be quite a bit different as the lab Perrys lab is no longer sad to say. Check out the technical requirements first then see what the market is for sellable subject on 8mm. It is all doable still but proceed with care.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on March 16, 2011, 09:29 AM:

What a shame that facilities like Perry's are no longer available - even if aomeone had the printer, I don't suppose the stock to use with it would be obtainable. I have a print of Lee's 'Cinema In Minature' and I must say that considering it's a copy of a film shot on Super 8, the picture quality is remarkably good. (Fascinating content, too!)

Posted by Mark L Barton (Member # 1512) on July 21, 2011, 08:32 AM:

Hi Adam, have to say a heartfelt WOW on your films at Vimeo. Tell me something about the music, it really helped the narrative, was thi sspecially composed for the project? You also edited the film, did you do much picture enhancement beyond just white balancing etc, and how did you find editing on Avid, we use FCP 7 which is fine but a nightmare when it comes to file sizes using the Apple pro res codec. Again, the film is amazing. Congrats.

Posted by Adam Deierling (Member # 2307) on July 21, 2011, 09:47 AM:

Thanks! That means alot! Which film are you referring to specifically? I generally do my color correction inside the Avid. I have my cameras set to capture a great image raw but sometimes they need a bit of enhancement. The only project that I had music composed for was my short film "Genesis". Everything else was found elsewhere.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on July 21, 2011, 01:11 PM:

If I had my way, I would love to find some old super 8 lab equipment, and set up my own super 8 processing lab. At least there are two different films stocks avaialble these days ...

Kodak Vision (beautiful color)
Fuji

... both low fade. I wonder what it would be like to get (no doubt) the permits to use the chemicals involved in processing the films. I could ask overseas and see how they were able to do so, but then, it's a foreign country and no doubt have different standards and laws ...

... but ahhh, to actually be able to produce super 8 prints (to demand) and not have the heavy overhead of going overseas to do it!

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