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Posted by Roger Shunk (Member # 2836) on February 10, 2013, 01:18 PM:

I have a mystery on my hands and perhaps a film forum member can help solve the mystery? I have been using my German made hahnel electronic motor cement film splicer on all my films. I have been using it without any problems until I purchased a few films that were treated with Film Guard that needed leader on them. When I try and cut the films treated with filmguard it will not cut it and only bends the film? I had to finally cut the film using a pair of sharp scissors. I then scraped off the emulsion on one side of the leader and one side on the film like I always do and then apply the cement and wait 1 minute for a solid bond.
But the film just lifts right apart when I try to remove it off the pins. Normally it bonds the film so strong that you can't pull the splice apart without tearing the film first. Are these films perhaps on lowfade acetate along with the film guard giving me this problem? I have never ever used tape splices before but I may have to in this case.
Any feedback on this subject would be greatly appreciated! [Confused]

Thanks,
Roger

Posted by David Ollerearnshaw (Member # 3296) on February 10, 2013, 01:24 PM:

Sounds to me like its polyester/ester stock the only way to splice is tape. Try tearing a scrap piece of the film, if it won't tear its polyester.

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on February 10, 2013, 01:36 PM:

I agree it's probably not Acetate...however you could try cleaning the spiced area with alcohol and then try Super Glue instead of cement. Let is dry about 3-4 mins.

Posted by Roger Shunk (Member # 2836) on February 10, 2013, 01:50 PM:

Ok thank you both for your input and I even tried the dreaded Protect-A-Print green film leader and it did not protect my prints! The film does not tear so Jan I will try your super glue suggestion first and if that fails then I will go to the tape splices!
Thanks,
Roger [Smile]

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on February 10, 2013, 03:37 PM:

Roger

If you are thinking of switching to tape, I would recommend looking out for a "Wurker" tape splicer...its a good one and ideal for stereo sound tracks.

Graham.

Posted by Roger Shunk (Member # 2836) on February 10, 2013, 05:08 PM:

Graham I really like the Hahnel Kollomatic film splicer and just found a second one brand new mint Kollomatic in box never used for only $9.95! The wurker splicer you speak of are they expensive and hard to come by? I have never seen them up for sale before?

Thanks,
Roger

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