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Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on May 30, 2013, 01:41 PM:

Hi Alan, just wondering if you ever got to the bottom of this problem with your Bauer T610 as mine is in exactly the same state as yours was. Similarly it was working like a swiss clock up until it suddenly developed this issue. If you needed spares please may I ask what spares and where did you manage to purchase them from? Mine has also gone significantly noisier which as you know is totally uncharacteristic for this machine. Were you also able to solve the problem by adjustments to the cam and follwer? Any help Alan would most certainly be gratefully received! Thanks Andrew.

Posted by Alan Rik (Member # 73) on May 30, 2013, 02:27 PM:

I sold my Bauer as "working but may need adjustment".
I was going to send it in to FFR film but I couldn't justify all the shipping when I could possibly find another here in the states for almost the same. And I just found another Bauer T610!
Good luck with your dilemma. I hope you get it sorted. Fantastic machine.

Posted by Michael Wright (Member # 1387) on May 30, 2013, 09:53 PM:

Hi Andrew, try googling John White he repaired my Noris Projector, he could possibly help. MIKE

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on May 30, 2013, 10:04 PM:

It's worth a try.
http://www.the8mmshedshop.co.uk/

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on July 27, 2013, 05:44 PM:

Thanks for all of your support her folks, especially Alan for initially alerting me to the spare parts available to the Bauer series at FFR Filmtecknik in Germany. I sent the machine to them and they carried out the repair for me by changing the shutter claw and cam follower attached to the claw. I think they also checked the rest of the machine out for me and also fitted a damaged spring that pulls the claw assy onto the rotating eccentric cam mounted on the main shaft besides the shutter wheel. The projector came back with a bent front foot from all of the transportation despite packing it extremely well in its rugged transport case as well as lots of polystyrene packing. I paid for the express service at the UK and got there safe and sound according to FFR so I think the poor handling was done during the return journey using an economy service which was chosen for me by FFR.
I was initially relatively satisfied with the work carried out but the projector didn't always reliably thread and was noisier than it ought to have been considering all of the worn parts had been replaced. It also didn't project backwards very well and was occasionally prone to jitter in the frame in reverse. Whilst the machine was away I was fortunate to obtain an original Bauer service manual which was printed in German. I spent the weeks while the machine was away learning as much as possible from the manual by translating it to English and in particular the set up procedures used in manufacture and service centres for the shutter claw mechanism. I have recently just got the machine back to A1 now and learned exactly how to adjust all aspects of the shutter claw to perfect its optimal running position and as such the machine now frames perfectly in forward and reverse, threads flawlessly every time and runs as quiet as when I first got the machine, which as I have said in the past is near silently apart from the fan noise. I also managed to straighten the foot without damaging it in any way so eventually I have the machine I love back to how it always was. As you can imagine I have learned an enormous amount about these type of projectors throughout this fiasco so hopefully some of my learnings can be passed on to other owners if they are unfortunate to have similar problems. By the way the problem with the initial set up after the PJ was returned by FFR was that there was far too much end float on the main shaft due to a retaining collar that needed dressing after it had "picked up" on the shaft and resulted in burrs on the shaft and collar. This was preventing the collar from being seated in its correct position on the shaft with a 0.1mm clearance from the bearing journal and was therefore allowing far too much float in the shaft when switching from forward to reverse.

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