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Posted by Luigi Castellitto (Member # 3759) on September 01, 2013, 02:07 PM:

The Bolex P3 can be used with a 10 meters (Fomapan R100 double 8) and not only 7.5 meters?
If yes, the counter stops and starts to make the click sound, or stops only, at 7.5 meters (I do not think it restart...), but the film goes on and the remaining footage to be counted at mind by the operator?

Posted by Bryan Chernick (Member # 1998) on September 02, 2013, 09:49 PM:

The standard length of Regular 8mm film is about 10 meters. When reading the counter in feet there are several feet before you reach 0 and it will run for several feet after it passes 25 before the film is used up (about 3.9 feet each side). On a 10 meter roll you have 25 feet of useable film. The extra footage is expected to be wasted when you load/unload and flip the film since it will be exposed to light. This is why they called it "daylight load".

If you want to utilize the extra few feet like I do learn how to load the film in a film changing bag or a dark room. I used an old roll of expired film to practice with.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on September 03, 2013, 12:50 AM:

I readed that 30 feet was the standard for double 8 filmstock (to give real 25 feet shooting to the filmmaker) but that now it is rather 25 feet. If some companies still provide 30 feet, it is a good new.

[ September 03, 2013, 06:35 AM: Message edited by: Dominique De Bast ]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on September 03, 2013, 05:08 AM:

In the old days of standard 8 camera film there was indeed more than 25 feet of film. We used to change the spools for the second run in the dark so as to get as much exposed film as possible returned from the lab.

I believe that Kodak were aware of this and chopped the films to 25 feet, before joining the two halves to make the 50 feet before returning to the user.

Posted by Bryan Chernick (Member # 1998) on September 03, 2013, 10:20 AM:

The 25 foot reels I got from John Schwind always had a few extra feet on each end. I'm not sure if it was a full 10 meters but it was close. I started buying 100 foot reels and used them to make 3 reels that were at least 10 meters. I was able to save a few bucks doing it that way.

Posted by Luigi Castellitto (Member # 3759) on September 03, 2013, 11:34 AM:

I can load the camera in total darkness (i also trained a lot with an old expired film), but... a state of semi-darkness, in the dark with a small small light in the distance, can save a meter higher than 7.5?

Dom, a Fomapan R100, good film, I find it in Italy!

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