8mm Forum: Super 8mm Tape Splicer

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Posted by Tom Dee (Member # 4468) on November 06, 2014, 10:17 PM:

I would like any info on what would be a good tape splicer to buy.

Thanks

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 06, 2014, 11:19 PM:

The Agfa F8 S Automatic Klebepresse is my favourite.

Once again, made in Germany, where else?

[ November 07, 2014, 06:44 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 07, 2014, 02:26 AM:

Most tape splicers use expensive replacement tapes. However, the Italian CIR splicer uses rolls of fairly in-expensive rolls of tape which the splicer perforates as it cuts.

Posted by Lee Panton (Member # 4443) on November 07, 2014, 02:35 AM:

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Posted by Yanis Tzortzis (Member # 434) on November 07, 2014, 05:22 AM:

I'd go for the CIR....

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 07, 2014, 05:54 AM:

They're alright the old CIR splicers, but it is a lot of "faffing" around compared to using the F8 S.

The tapes for these are easily got (Hama type) and will be around for a long while yet due to the popularity of these type of tapes.

I always use a roller to finish like the ones sold at Wittners just to press down further on the tape once the splice is completed. Makes for a much more durable splice especially if using Filmguard on your films.

Splice tapes on these work out at 10p each when you buy 100 from e bay etc.(freepost)

[ November 07, 2014, 06:43 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Woodcock ]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 07, 2014, 01:24 PM:

What happened there Lee? Did you go off your newly acquired splicer overnight? (ha ha)

Posted by Janice Glesser (Member # 2758) on November 07, 2014, 02:31 PM:

Hi Tom,

The two splicers I use for Super 8mm are the Ciro and the Kodak Universal Splicer. Both are easy to use and the tapes readily available. The Ciro uses tape rolls and the Kodak uses Presstape strips. The Ciro splicer itself tends to be a little more expensive, however I find the roll tape to be more economical in the long run than presstapes...I get more splices. That said... the Presstapes are excellent for repairing broken sprockets since the tape strip is longer. The Kodak Universal Splicer can also handle multiple formats 8mm, S8mm, and 16mm. Where you will need a separate Ciro splicer for different formats.

I have a Kodak Universal Splicer currently listed on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/201212324546?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

I also have an extra Ciro splicer (pictured above) if you are interested PM me.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 07, 2014, 02:56 PM:

The CIRO is a the American version of the Italian CIR splicer. Highly recommended.
http://super8data.com/database/splicers_list/splicers_cir/cir_super8_deluxe.htm

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 07, 2014, 03:44 PM:

Yes Maurice, it appears very similar to the one I have, even the case is identical except the Italian deluxe CIR one I have is entirely made of metal except for the bobbin. It is identical to the one you have linked here, except also, the "deluxe" emblem, are the words "new matrix" beneath, though I have no idea what that refers to.

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Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on November 07, 2014, 06:06 PM:

I have a tape splicer in full working order 14.99 plus postage

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 07, 2014, 06:13 PM:

Model type?

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on November 07, 2014, 06:39 PM:

I use both the Agfa and the CIR. One point to bear in mind is that the AGFA is a 4 frame splicer (i.e. it covers 4 frames) whereas the CIR only covers 2 frames. If you are making many splices in home movies for example you are better off using the CIR. I know it only passes the gate for a fraction of a second but they can still show. I prefer using the AGFA for splicing on leader as the hama splices are very neat.

Graham S

Posted by David Guest (Member # 2791) on November 07, 2014, 06:48 PM:

Agfa fs8 automatic

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on November 07, 2014, 06:48 PM:

Agreed Graham, though four frames (one sixth of a second @ 24fps) has never bothered me either visually or sonically [Wink]

More important to me is the physical strength of the splice rather than any very slight blip in the blink of an eye whilst viewing.

Main stripe is left exposed so it matters none in reality whether two, four or how ever many frames are covered, to the ears.

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