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Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on December 07, 2014, 11:37 PM:

Due to the expense of having negatives/prints made, Steve Osborne of The Reel Image is asking those who are seriously interested in getting the 31 minute Scope True Lies digest to contact him so he can place an order for the correct amount of prints. This is for Part One, which covers the first 2/3 of the film. If this proves successful, Part Two (12 minutes) will follow shortly.

Depending on the Euro exchange rate, the polyester prints of Part One will cost approximately $270.

Steve's contact information can be found here.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on December 08, 2014, 02:10 PM:

The problem here is that part 2 may never be printed and collectors may end up with only 2/3 of the film. Mabye it might be safer and cheaper to print just an extract on 400ft. Just my thoughts.

Graham S

Posted by Nigel Higgins (Member # 4312) on December 08, 2014, 03:56 PM:

I've expressed my intrest in this one to Steve but part one will be no good without part two so lets hope enough people want this film and make it happen.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 08, 2014, 04:40 PM:

this would mean,(as much as i would really love to have this film) that with both parts you could be looking at over $350 for what is a 40 minute digest. i really would like it but it is trying to convince the Mrs how i could justify the cost. With such an action packed movie no matter how well this would be edited there would be an awful lot missing. i would still prefer to look at a good extract such as the opening sequence of private ryan,(as a 600 footer). this is simply an example.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on December 08, 2014, 04:54 PM:

We have to face the fact that sadly prices only go up.

Posted by Clinton Hunt (Member # 2072) on December 08, 2014, 05:55 PM:

Hi all from New Zealand [Smile]

I've just been to the http://thereelimage.jimdo.com/ website and saw full length Super 8mm films are available! I presume they are new prints but maybe expensive???? but obviously worth it to the devoted Super 8mm collector.

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on December 08, 2014, 09:55 PM:

I think the success of 'Captain America' proved that there are still collectors who liked the idea of a well-edited digest - which also gives a sense of connecting to Super 8 history via the production of a unique version. And every credit to Steve for helping to keep new releases alive by charging what's essentially cost price!!

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on December 09, 2014, 12:30 AM:

There does appear to be a natural break in the two parts. Part one ends with Harry rescuing his wife from the limo before it goes off the bridge and part two starts with the news that their daughter has been taken hostage.

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on December 09, 2014, 01:51 PM:

With the consideration of the best master material, editing, exceptional quality in film printing, sound striping, recording, and the cost of 35mm film, the $270.00 price is inexpensive for manufacturing a film title.

A complete used 16mm print on an eBAY auction, would probably sell for a minimum of $700.

Steve must create a package price that will cover all out of pocket costs, that will entice buyers to make a commitment and purchase the film which includes the final reel at a minimal cost.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on December 09, 2014, 02:32 PM:

I know what they put out at CHC new usually costs them money overall. and often they loose more too with all the costs so all the work and selling etc is effectively voluntary for the hobby.

I suppose at around $350 or about £200 ish for the 40 minutes thats about $700 or £400 for an hour and a half feature.

Compared to what people payed in the late 70`s its quite good value.

People can spend that on 4 or 5 nights out easily with nothing to show but a few trips too the loo.

Its just amazing it can happen in 2014/15 !!!

Best Mark.

Posted by Nigel Higgins (Member # 4312) on December 09, 2014, 03:15 PM:

Yes a massive outlay by those involved the negative is $3600 to start with and nonprofit being made on the first batch ,my hat goes of for steve and phil for keeping the new stuff alive in this day and age [Smile]

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on December 09, 2014, 05:03 PM:

The only problem I have with it is I dont like paying $270 for only 2/3 of the film without the end and credits.

Its a bit like Derann only printing the first 3 reels of Star Wars and only if this sells would they print the last reel. Yes I know times are different now and we have to accept it but there are no gurantees the last part would be printed.

Was'nt there meant to be an extra reel to Captain America, what happened to that??

Graham S

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on December 09, 2014, 05:48 PM:

Graham, I haven't seen that film but from what I understand from Doug's message, you can Watch the first part as a complete story, so even if a second part never exists in the future, you will still have a watchable film.

Posted by Jason Gronn (Member # 3921) on December 09, 2014, 06:12 PM:

Yes these new films are not cheap but I have told Steve to send any new release films when they come in stock as l like many just won't to keep film alive.
True Lies digest sounds great and l can't wait to get a print in my collection.

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on December 10, 2014, 11:53 AM:

Hey Mark, Sounds good so you will be getting a copy then? [Wink]

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on December 18, 2014, 08:18 PM:

Update:

Steve told me today that he's very close to having enough orders to justify the expense of having the lab start the first print run. A few more orders would greatly help, so if you are interested, please contact him.

Steve made one point very clear. He said that upon Part One's release, Part Two will definitely follow. No one has to worry about ending up with an incomplete digest.

Doug

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on January 10, 2015, 04:31 AM:

Is there any reason why it is so difficult to know what new releases are available (and their price) and then to buy them ? It would be so easy to list the titles on a web page and give the possibility to order online. So far, you need to have a catlogue or a list and then send an e-mail or call. This doesn't help the sales.

Posted by Mark Todd (Member # 96) on January 10, 2015, 05:01 AM:

Hi Tom no I`m afraid I won`t. I`m not free to decide what I do or buy etc as governed by another force or entity 2 miles away.

Buy I am buying some trailers slowly from Steve when they come in so thats something.

I`ve just been asked for another £150 for something this very day !!! though asked is putting it nicely.

I really hope this release goes ahead as an absolute cracker.

If only there was a HD to super 8 option to remove that $3600 neg cost especially if you could do optical sound in the same run.

Best Mark.

Posted by Mark Silvester (Member # 929) on January 10, 2015, 09:00 AM:

I always commend new releases and efforts regarding 8/16mm...but I d would not buy that...the film was mediocre.to say the least..and that is being polite. Why not get a top title...either from today or even yesterday..something like..Batman(or any of the sequels)..NOW that would be good and a 30 minute condensation could be done. Obviously I do know that it is dependant on source material, etc. Well done and I must applaud your efforts.Why not source a potential good Christmas title..now that would be a good move. Best to all...Willy Wonka with Gene Wilder would make a great 600" footer.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on January 10, 2015, 05:51 PM:

I think the problem with older films is finding master material that is free from marks and speckles etc. For the price of the film you pay, you would want a pristine print.

Graham S

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on January 10, 2015, 06:08 PM:

Quite right Graham, though this is surely going to prove impossible as time goes by given that all films are Digital from their outset since 2014.

Sooner or later, the purists are going to have to accept that a Super 8 print may have to come originally from a digital source.

Thing is if you look at Toy Story, Ice Age or Chicken Run, they all screen superbly despite their digital origins and if it can bring the cost of new prints down...then bring it on is what I say!

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on January 30, 2015, 11:44 AM:

True Lies is now available from CHC but there is no price shown on the list.

Posted by Andrea Fastami (Member # 4789) on September 07, 2015, 05:35 AM:

sorry..any news about this release??
thanks

Posted by Douglas Meltzer (Member # 28) on September 22, 2015, 08:32 AM:

Andrea,

An update has just been posted here.

Doug

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