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Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on October 12, 2015, 11:51 AM:

Funny how slot loaders were manufactured for the 16mm and 35mm guages, but not for 8mm. Or do they, in fact, exist? Why wouldn't they? As if to suggest that film that get jammed in the 8mm gauge are less important than other formats.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on October 13, 2015, 02:24 PM:

I would assume that you are referring to super 8 cartridge machines? In that case, there were quite a few, for both magnetic sound and optical. The airlines used cartridge based machines for the optical sound super 8 airline feature era, and there were of course those slot loading projectors you happened to see at many a pizza parlor and otherwise, for years and years ...

However, while the cartridges for them are still somewhat common, the projector are incredibly hard to come by.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 13, 2015, 03:19 PM:

I have never seen a slot loading Super 8mm Projector.

I would have liked to have seen one of the ones used by the airlines back in the day but have never even found a photo of one unfortunately.

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on October 14, 2015, 02:14 PM:

Nope, Osi. I meant an actual slot load standard super 8 projector that was not for cartridges - a regular reel to reel unit.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on October 14, 2015, 03:00 PM:

I don't believe one exists Brad.

Posted by Mathew James (Member # 4581) on October 14, 2015, 03:28 PM:

Hi Brad,
If you are referring to the capability to remove film at any time, another term to search is midreel removal projectors:
Bell & Howell DCT
Bell & Howell DCR
Eumig RS 3000
Eumig S 912
Eumig S 910 HQS
Eumig S 905
Apparently the Kodak 235 and 235B have this kind of capability as well.
Matt
Ps:Take a look at that Eumig S 910 HQS on youtube. It is the craziest set-up! [Smile]

Posted by Brad Kimball (Member # 5) on October 14, 2015, 03:46 PM:

Ah-Ha!!! Thanks Matt. I imagine that the "mid reel" options you've noted are probably the closest anyone would find to a true slot loader. Probably because the projectors have parts so much smaller than larger guages that nobody thought to try to design one.

Posted by William Olson (Member # 2083) on October 15, 2015, 12:37 PM:

I always wondered why 8mm/Super 8mm projectors were never designed with true slot loading like my Elmo 16CL 16mm projector. It seems to me to be a no-brainer.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on October 15, 2015, 03:09 PM:

With regard to 16mm Slot Loaders I quote from the 1979/1980 Bell & Howell Audio-Visual catalogue.

"An alternative to automatic threading is offered by the 1680. The film is drawn through a curved channel in a single,
quick, one-handed movement. This method of threading has been developed to make it easier for instructors to show only part of a film."

Auto-thread on Super 8 was developed for newcomers to family home filming who just slapped in a cartridge to load their camera, and the same method was applied to projectors with their auto-thread mechanism. Why learn how to thread a camera or a projector?

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on October 15, 2015, 04:39 PM:

The Norisound 410 & 412 have a sort of mid reel removal system when the main control was set to a certain position. I used it when a film slowed half way through, it wasn't easy though. I had to ease the sound-head pressure pads down with a finger to get the film out.

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