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Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on April 03, 2017, 06:43 AM:

Mention of the Cut A Rut on another thread makes me remember that I always wondered why theses devices were so needed back in the day.

I can sort of imagine someone wanting to remove a dodgy paste stripe, but these were popular in the 70's & 80's when most stock, camera or print was pre-stripe.

So why would so many folk want to remove the magnetic stripe??

I can imagine it was an awfully messy process too.

[Confused]

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 03, 2017, 06:52 AM:

Beats me too Rob???

Even to this day, perfect recordings can still be made to laminated pre striped stock, so why hack away at it and risk damaging sections of the frames image????

Posted by Brian Fretwell (Member # 4302) on April 03, 2017, 06:58 AM:

Possibly a film maker who didn't follow the instructions when home striping and had uneven adhesion would want one to rectify the problem by re-striping. Not everyone bough pre-stiped stock in silent cartridges.

Oh, and the advert I have shows standard 8 film being dealt with. Not much standard 8 was pre-striped, unless it was slit from striped 16mm stock.

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on April 03, 2017, 07:07 AM:

Yes Brian, I can only imagine it was something only ever needed by the home movie making fraternity.

Even then though, if you wanted sound films, why not just buy sound film cartridges, take "live" sound while shooting and save yourself a lot of hassle?

I have to say, it is something I have never found myself needing once in both times of being in the hobby, aside from some very dubious pasted striped films I have come across in much later times than these were popular.

Even then, the professional results from re striping these prints were a complete and utter waste of time I found.

Derann's services back in the day, did me a few good decent jobs many moons ago, but anything after that has resulted in total failure.
I wouldn't bother nowadays even trying to improve upon it, if a pasted stripe was less than satisfactory.

Posted by Rob Young. (Member # 131) on April 03, 2017, 09:14 AM:

Brian raises a fair point in that if you only owned a silent super 8 camera, that it was probably still cheaper to buy silent cartridges and then stripe them at home after processing (or have them done professionally) rather than buy the pre-striped sound cartridges for silent cameras.

I guess that many on a tight budget didn't want to go for a full sound camera Andrew but were happy just to add music and effects later?

Post striping seems a lots of hassle, but I guess it was all part of the hobby for some at the time.

To get back to Cut A Rut; so it seems the real use was to help repair a botch job!

[Roll Eyes]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on April 03, 2017, 02:59 PM:

In the days before I bought a Super 8 sound camera I always edited my silent films before sending away for striping. Sound was then added later.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on April 03, 2017, 11:19 PM:

Striping over film with splices always seemed hokey to me.

Posted by William Olson (Member # 2083) on April 05, 2017, 09:27 AM:

I recall the Cut-A-Rut. I thought it was for creating a very shallow 'trench' on processed film in which soundstriping would be applied. This would help to keep the film surface level in the film gate (in the absence of a balance stripe) as well as helping the stripe to adhere better. In any case, some mention was made about using pre-striped silent film. I made lots of films when such film was not available. I sent my edited film to a lab for striping so I could record my sound-on-film soundtracks.

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