8mm Forum: Elmo GS-1200 for sale

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Posted by Michael John Carter (Member # 490) on November 09, 2005, 03:30 PM:

Hi, I'm selling my Elmo GS1200 as I don't use it and don't need it in my two bedroom flat. It was my grandfathers who used to make me lug it up and down the stairs of his house every time we went around there just so they could all embarrass me with the home mades of me as a child running around in yellow dungarees! Anyway I got all the home movies converted to DVD so he could laugh when he wanted and bought him the Laurel and Harvey movies (to be sold at a later date) he has on 8mm.

The GS1200 is in great condition and has been seriously cared for by my grandfather and as I said it's wasted on me and is now deserving of a new home.

It comes with all the leads, brush, microphone and even the original cleaning cotton buds as well as the box and polystyrene packaging. Even though I've sold over a hundred things on EBay, I (and he) want the Elmo go to someone who would appreciate it and would rather make a transaction/delivery in person so delivery would be safe and sound as I really would know how to "send" something this heavy and valuable.

Anyway onto the machine itself as you'll see from the pictures it's clean, not user battered and is the usual spec with one difference. The spec tag states that the lens in a F1.1 12.5-25mm but the lens itself is a 1.0 12.5-30mm if this helps anybody. As far as cost goes "Lee's Camera's" said he would give me between 200-250 which I think is low and is probably down to the fact that he's a dealer and wants to resell for profit. Anyway enough babble here's the picture, please email me at michael.carter@mariecurie.org.uk if need anymore info or pictures.

I also have an Elmo 1012S-XL Super 8 camera which hasn't been used if anayone is interested, i've got pictures if required so please ask but I wanted to get the GS1200 taken of first.

Thanks, Mike

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on November 09, 2005, 05:53 PM:

Well Michael I would love to buy your Elmo, but I live in the States. Anyway, whatever you do, do not sell it to Lee's cameras for 250 pounds- I am sure he would love to get it at that price!

Posted by Michael John Carter (Member # 490) on November 10, 2005, 05:27 AM:

Thanks for the heads up Paul, I really don't want to sell it Lee's to be honest especially for £250, he hummed and arrd about it could be only worth £200 but then again he's in it for the money I suppose.

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on November 10, 2005, 06:11 AM:

Michael,
Check your pm and mail please.

Posted by Steven Sigel (Member # 21) on November 10, 2005, 10:04 AM:

Michael --

250 pounds is too low for a GS-1200... I would think you could get between 400-600 pounds for it.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on November 10, 2005, 04:51 PM:

Hi Michael, Thats a version 3 machine. In that condition with the original box etc you should be looking for about £800. Thats the going rate in the UK at the moment for a machine in such mint condition. Tell Lee's where to get off. He was taking you for a ride [Frown]

Hold out for that mate. [Smile]

By the way, welcome to the forum [Smile]

Kev.

Posted by Michael John Carter (Member # 490) on November 10, 2005, 05:34 PM:

Hi,

I've been asked by another forum member if this unit is multi voltage but I don't believe it is. I've attached yet another picture to show the consumption label. I think I’m going to answer any more questions all in one hit and my back is killing me getting the unit in and out of the box!!!!

Thanks Kevin, I kind of had an idea looking at other postings on this forum that what I was being offered was, let’s just say, less than generous by lee's.

All the best and thanks for your interest.

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 11, 2005, 04:19 AM:

What a beauty. Anyone getting that for £800 would still be getting a bargain.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on November 11, 2005, 05:06 AM:

Yes that's a single voltage unit like most sold in the UK. However it can be adjusted between 220 - 240V with tappings on the transformer so will run on most supplies within Europe.

Kev.

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on November 11, 2005, 05:27 AM:

Kevin could you please precise, how this adjustment can be done?
For Germany e.g. the GS needs to run at 220V, while for Greece it needs to run at 240V.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on November 11, 2005, 07:11 AM:

Michael,

That unit looks pristine. DO NOT sell it for less than £600 at the very least but hold out for at least £750 or £800. And please DO NOT sell it to any dealer. All of them will take you for a ride.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on November 11, 2005, 09:03 AM:

Michael,
Grahame and Kevin are absolutely right. This is a very valuable piece of equipment if it is in mint condition. The f1.0 lens alone would probably fetch between 75 -150 pounds!

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on November 11, 2005, 10:39 AM:

Paul Congratulations!
I've just offered Michael 150 pounds for the lens, and sending my 1.1 in return [Big Grin]

! The offer applies to anyone here willing to sell the same lens.

Posted by Graham Sinden (Member # 431) on November 11, 2005, 11:12 AM:

I'm sorry about saying that ALL dealers will rip you off. There are some good ones out there like Derann who game my friend a very reansonable price for a collection of super 8 shorts most of which were not in their original box.

Having a 1.0 lens will certaintly boost the price up a bit.

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 11, 2005, 07:28 PM:

The voltage in Germany used to be 220V but actually was increased to 230V many years ago in response to increasing electric usage and a slight dip in voltage as a result.

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on November 12, 2005, 05:53 AM:

The voltage adjustment is made by moving a wire on the mains transformer. There are 3 connections marked P1, P2 & P3.
P1 = 220V, P2 = 230V & P3 = 240V. Obviously this machine will have the wire soldered to P3. For Germany, just move the wire to P1.

Kev.

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 12, 2005, 09:09 AM:

Or P2. [Big Grin]

Posted by Dimitrios Kremalis (Member # 272) on November 12, 2005, 09:15 AM:

Thank you very much Kevin & Jan.
What happens if I just leave the connection at 220V instead of 240V and the opposite (240V instead of 220V)? Will it harm the transformer, or is it within its tolerances?

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 12, 2005, 09:39 AM:

I believe it will be within tolerances (corrections more than welcome, guys). If the transformer is set to 220V and being fed 240V it will get warmer than it should but the DC voltages coming out the "other end" and powering the various projector components should not be affected. If it's set to 240V and powered with 220V then that's more like a continuous brownout of sorts, i.e. things will just about run OK but you might see things happening like the lamp becoming darker when the motor runs (or motor slowing down when lamp goes on), sound quality affected and things like that. Now, none of this should happen to any great extent (we're talking minor effects here)... long story short, no damage should occur, but it would be a good idea to set the correct voltage for 100% reliable operation. [Smile]

Personally, I'd just set the bloody thing to 230V and forget about voltages, but that's just me. [Big Grin]

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on November 12, 2005, 06:48 PM:

Jan, if you leave the transformer set at 220v and then run it on 240V believe me the lamp wont last long [Frown]

Yes you could leave a 240V model set to 240V and run it on 220V but why do that when you can change it quite easily? unless you want a dim image.
Here in the UK like most other countries there is a tolerence and of course this does mean that in the UK it could be higher than 240V. I would set it to the correct setting for the country it will end up in. Why take the risk of messing such a nice machine up?

Kev.

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 12, 2005, 07:26 PM:

Kevin, you're quite right. My assumption was that there would be voltage regulators on the output side of the transformer ensuring the correct voltage was given for the motor and lamp (especially the lamp), but you know these things better than I. So I take that "set-it-to-230V-and-forget-it" statement back. [Smile]

Indeed, why take a chance when doing it right is so easy...

Posted by Tony Milman (Member # 7) on November 13, 2005, 08:27 AM:

So, whats the status of the projector sale? I sent Michael an email but no reply [Confused]

Posted by Craig Hamilton (Member # 258) on November 13, 2005, 08:37 AM:

Tony, he's in France for the weekend.

Craig

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on November 16, 2005, 07:28 PM:

OK, I should own up and say that after a few days of suspense, I became the (very) proud owner of this machine this evening. To anyone else that was interested, you have my sympathy; I've been in the same situation myself so I can understand any disappointment. I was lucky to get in first, and - living in London - I was well placed to help Michael avoid having to post it. I've been looking for a pristine GS with a 1.0 lens for about 20 years, and I hope this is the last projector I ever buy! All credit to Michael for doing his reasearch and ensuring that it went to a suitably appreciative home, and getting a fair price at the same time.

If anyone might be interested in buying my moderately used GS, in pretty good condition and with a 1.1 lens, let me know. I haven't finalised a price yet, but it will be considerably less than what I spent today!

[ November 16, 2005, 09:13 PM: Message edited by: Adrian Winchester ]

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 16, 2005, 11:18 PM:

Congratulations Adrian, nice one [Smile]

But will it be the last projector you ever buy? Somehow I doubt that... [Big Grin]

Posted by John Clancy (Member # 49) on November 17, 2005, 02:51 AM:

Adrian, I'm sending you the details for the HTI conversion...

Posted by Michael John Carter (Member # 490) on November 17, 2005, 03:59 AM:

Adrian, you are very welcome and I had a really interesting and informative evening. I'd like to thank everyone else for their interest and help and truly believe the GS1200 has gone to a happy home. All the best.

Posted by Paul Adsett (Member # 25) on November 17, 2005, 08:28 AM:

Congratulations Adrian, nothing like a new GS1200 to get the adrenaline going! [Smile]

Posted by Craig Hamilton (Member # 258) on November 17, 2005, 08:35 AM:

Adrian, well done [Wink]

I have sent you a PM.

Jan, such a sweet signature. I should of said focusing Knob

Craig

Posted by Adrian Winchester (Member # 248) on November 17, 2005, 12:29 PM:

Thanks everyone for the kind words - I might have feared one or two Voodoo dolls and pins on a less friendly board!

Jan - I wouldn't dare tempt fate by predicting that it will be the last projector I buy, although (having recently upgraded my Std 8 and 16mm machines) I certainly hope it is! I'm not someone who runs features every week, so it will take me a very long time to risk wearing out this GS!

John - the thought of HTI certainly would be tempting, but I think I'd better spend some time appreciating the 1.0, which would certainly be put 'in the shade' by HTI!

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on November 18, 2005, 12:24 AM:

Craig, the way you used those words "...is very Elmo" - I just loved that, so I had to put it in my signature. Actually I didn't even catch that you said "focus lens" where it should have been "focusing knob." [Big Grin]

(I could change my sig if you'd prefer, though...)

Now, the idea of HTI in combination with a 1.0 lens... holy moly... If the GS1200 were a space ship floating between the stars, that ought to put out enough light to propel it to the next galaxy. [Big Grin]

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