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Posted by Gilbert Lambert (Member # 5403) on August 27, 2017, 04:47 PM:

Did you knew that every movie can be bought on 16mm lately ?
Not cheap , but I know where. Anybody interested in a certain title on 16mm , the prints will be LPP Scope if made in Scope and polyester film stock. Price according to duration.
ANY movie ... That's quiet a few hundred thousands of titles.
Please Doug, don't ask me to list ALL titles and price. Contact me directly by PM in case you have a title in mind for price. I will check with my contact. Kind regards, Gilbert

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on August 27, 2017, 05:06 PM:

Hello Gilbert

Is this a completely new venture or are you effectively becoming an agent for the already available 16mm printing services from our Italian cine friend - no names mentioned - shall we call him 'M' ?

If yours is a new venture I would be interested to know your prices per minute in comparison to his.

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on August 27, 2017, 05:14 PM:

It would interest me too if this extended to Super 8mm magnetic striped films.

Posted by Gilbert Lambert (Member # 5403) on August 27, 2017, 05:21 PM:

It's a new contact that offered me the service, I had no idea this was already done in Italy. True somebody should do the same for Super 8. The problem is always money I guess.

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on August 27, 2017, 05:22 PM:

Where will the striped Super 8 stock come from though Andrew - like you I would be interested but this is where 16mm with an optical track has the advantage ie: no mag stripe required.

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on August 27, 2017, 05:37 PM:

Super 8mm Optical would be better than nothing for us all but I thought Andec were still putting out mag striped film and if so, why can't others?

The ability to successfully and continually paste stripe polyester really does need addressing nowadays.

Surely it cannot be beyond the realms of possibility or even laminating it again in a darkroom first.

To me its essential if either Ferrania or Kodak finally come up with the goods again...IF.

Phil at CHC in recent times has always spoken of very low demand for any new 16mm releases he proposes but he has been able to still put Super 8mm new films into circulation.
From this, I'd say the demand for new prints on eight must be far higher.

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on August 27, 2017, 05:50 PM:

I'm sure Andec could apply paste stripe to exposed Super 8 film of any stock but then it would need recording as well so a very expensive multi stage process - this is where 16mm optical sound printing is more affordable for these types of one off jobs. I sincerely hope someone does come up with an affordable Super 8 solution but it wont be for me unless the same price per minute or less than 16mm.

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on August 27, 2017, 05:53 PM:

I'd take them mute Kevin but with a decent stripe applied.

In fact, chances are I'd only finish up recording them again anyway to be completely satisfied judging by the newer shorts I've experienced from CHC a few years back.

Posted by Ian John (Member # 507) on August 27, 2017, 09:37 PM:

A lot of us these days have an Elmo Mag/Op super 8mm projector, so if the cost of producing super 8mm mag striped film is an issue over the cost of supplying optical track 16mm (and I use both formats) why not make super 8mm optical sound prints? this is what was done at one stage when supplying airlines with super 8mm optical sound prints for in-flight screenings to airline companies. Just my 2 pence worth. [Smile]

Posted by Winbert Hutahaean (Member # 58) on August 27, 2017, 11:03 PM:

I have mentioned that 5 years ago here:

[NEW INVENTION] Direct film printer real time, no negative needed!

A cost for new F/L feature in that year was about $3000 for 90 minutes show.

The link I gave in that post has now changed to http://www.piql.com/

But the wiki explanation is still here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinevator

cheers,

Posted by Gilbert Lambert (Member # 5403) on August 28, 2017, 12:26 AM:

My contact is 0,50 euro cheaper than the one in Italy. Not worth trying him out if the prints in Italy are perfect. I'm NOT starting a new business or venture. Was NOT the idea of this topic. Have a nice week, Gilbert

Posted by Tom Photiou (Member # 130) on August 28, 2017, 04:29 AM:

With the kind of sums involved it just makes it a ridiculous price for a "movie" and strictly for the few well off of the world?
Apart from that £3000, (mentioned) for 90 minutes is ,IMHO, where Dave Hardy's sanity check is needed.
Why would anyone actually pay that? [Confused]

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on August 28, 2017, 04:33 AM:

Sending you a PM Tom these things are best kept under the radar to ensure the ex- collector killjoys out there don't spoil the party!

Kevin

Posted by Andrew Woodcock (Member # 3260) on August 28, 2017, 05:36 AM:

How very sad that on a film dedicated forum, we even have to concern ourselves with ex collector kill joys and therefore are forced to discuss behind closed doors.

Presumably ex collectors of film here, have moved on to "bigger and better things" in their opinions and if this is indeed the case, what do they have to gripe about here?

Posted by Kevin Clark (Member # 211) on August 28, 2017, 07:14 AM:

It's just a wise practice in these cases Andrew you never know who is reading open forums such as this.

Kevin.

Posted by Dave Groves (Member # 4685) on August 28, 2017, 09:52 AM:

Don't think studio bosses would be too happy. Throughout most of my collecting history few up to date titles have been legally on sale. Most have come into the market through the demise of the format as libraries have closed. Are we talking latest titles, because, if so, we shall risk returning to the days when collectors were visited by unwelcome guests. Having said that, the price alone will keep the requests down to a handful I suspect.

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