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Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 27, 2006, 01:13 AM:

Since the theatrical
release of Pirates/2,
I noticed that Capt.
Jack Sparrow is now
included in the Pirates
ride in Disneyland.

I do not know to what
degree he will be featured
and if they are modifying
the entire ride around
Depp's image?

It gave me pause, to think
that if it is true,
then perhaps they should
cast Senior Disney 'Imagineer'
Marty Sklar, in the movie
Pirates/3,because Marty's
image is throughout
the Pirate attraction.
[Big Grin]

Last but not least,
I'm wondering what will be
the future fate of the
20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
attraction. Will Disney
ever bring it back as a Park attraction?
[Confused]

Michael

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on July 27, 2006, 02:17 AM:

Michael,

Depp's character appears three times along the ride and the storyline has been rewritten to fit his cameos. Captain Barbossa is also in there. I think it's kinda cool to give back something to the ride which inspired the successful films. At least some of the stupid politically correct stuff that were implemented a few years ago have been removed.

(If only Haunted Mansion and Country Bears had been better films...)

The submarine voyage will re-open in the near future as a "Finding Nemo" attraction.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 27, 2006, 12:27 PM:

I had a revelation about the Disney World experience the last time I was there. There is so much to do and see that it keeps you running all day long! It's recreation, but forget about the rest and relaxation!

One night I found myself on our nightly bus commute back to camp (we camped in Disney's Fort Wilderness: easily the most synthetic campground on the planet! There are armadillos running around, but I'll bet they have batteries in them!)when I turned to my wife and said "If I was not on vacation I would have been home four hours ago!"

Now that I'm a Daddy I guess I'm doomed to returning, but I won't go without a fight!

I'll take my Disney on reels, thank you!

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on July 27, 2006, 01:05 PM:

Armadillos are reel as the whole area is so protected that it is little by little becoming and "artificial natural wildlife reserve".

Steve, wait until your child has grown up a bit. Visiting a theme park (especially a big one) with a toddler in tow is an absolute nightmare. Unless you're of the masochistic kind. [Wink]

Before 6 (although I'm tempted to say 8), kids experience total sensory overload, they don't really understand the crowds, the lines, etc. they get tired very quickly and get really easily on their parents' nerves... Take your kid to a smaller regional park first and see the reaction...

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 27, 2006, 01:41 PM:

Jean-Marc,

What were the stupid politically correct
elements in the ride? I was in Disneyland
12 years ago, and was not aware of the
changes since my last visit?
I guess they made identical changes in
all of the parks regarding the PC issues?

Also, If Nemo goes outdoors then I suppose
that we will not see a return in the near
future of the Nautilus?

Steve,
Fort Wilderness sounds awesome.

We took a day outing at the first
Water Park that Disney Constructed:
titled River Country. It was fun and
laid back. But I think it is
presently closed.

I do not know if they plan to
reopen that specific park.

Needless to say, that is the
only place we relaxed, next
to the Hoop Dee Doo Review.

Michael

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 27, 2006, 02:41 PM:

Jean-Marc, right you are! We aren't ready to deal with Disney and our 4 year old just yet. With him there is also the size factor: he's 3 feet tall and skinny as a rail, I'm 6 feet tall and well..not so much! In a crowd he can dash through gaps and move 5 times as fast as I can unless I'm willing to start knocking people down (...and I'm sure the Orlando Jail is far from "the happiest place on Earth")

Michael: Fort Wilderness is very Disney: Efficient, Clean beyond Sterility, Systematized, Optimized: Perfect...Way too Perfect!

I got up one night and staggered off to the rest room to... you know. It was 3:00 in the morning and this chipper young man was busily scrubbing the place. Blearily I asked him why and he said it was the best time of the day to do it. I looked closely: he seemed to have a pulse and his pupils reacted to light, so I'm guessing he wasn't animatronic.

Between each set of guests, more chipper young people come to each campsite and remove all evidence of prior occupation, right down to the very DNA I'm sure!

Like a great many campgrounds there is canoeing. It's in an artificial pond which is isolated from Lake Buena Vista. I guess they don't want to risk some hapless paddler getting mowed down by Huck Finn's River Boat and jamming up Uncle Walt's gears.

There is a hiking trail there. It's 300 feet long. It's paved. It's got cutouts of Mickey, Minney and Pluto with backpacks!

- Yellowstone it aint!

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 27, 2006, 10:46 PM:

Steve,

Regardless of it
being the the most
sanitized Place on Earth,
I practically LMAO
in following your
recent exploits to WDW.
As you mentioned, we
don't wish to see
Uncle Walt's gears
messed up.

Michael

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on July 28, 2006, 03:21 AM:

Michael: the ride was refurbished 10 years ago. Under the pretext of fine tuning the main controls, the imagineers, facing a strong lobby from a feminist movement, rerecorded dialogues involving "chasing" (which meant "raping" for the feminists) women. They also changed some of the characters. Instead of having pirates chasing girls, they installed pirates chasing girls carrying trays of food...

“Disneyland... where you can burn down the village, torture the civilians, steal the treasure, sell the brides, and sing in a drunken stupor... as long as you don't rape the women."

[Wink]

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 28, 2006, 11:33 AM:

Jean-Marc,
Ok, now I get it,
and thanks for providing
the details of change
within the attraction.

I guess when I
visited this attraction
for the handful of times
I have been in
WDW, and the once that
I visited Disneyland,
it has only appeared to me as
an entertaining amusing comic
attraction within the framework
of Disney audio animitronics
and engineers to thrill
at a viewing distance, and
not into a true world of reality.
The subject of rape, never entered
my mind.

So, in seeing the recent
Pirates/2, it's a wonder
that it did not receive
a Restrictive or 'R'
rating here in the USA.

For those that are
not familiar,
'R' rated films are designed
for adults and for adults
to accompany their children of
at least 17 years of age.

Getting back to the 'Park'
Pirates Attractions, I have
always enjoyed seeing both
attractions in Florida and
California, with my preference
towards Pirates in the
California Park.

Michael

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on July 28, 2006, 04:58 PM:

Michael, you're right, I like the storyline better on the California version of the ride. Paris's version is more spectacular but the scene order isn't as good.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on July 28, 2006, 08:36 PM:

Oh, No!

Although entirely unaware of this thread, my wife just said maybe we should go to Mouseland next year!

Hide Me!

Instant Karma!! (...just add water!)

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 29, 2006, 12:31 AM:

Steve,
It may be time
for you to either
hide, or duck and
cover, [Big Grin]

- It seems
that there is no
escaping this request.

I just remembered that
it was on two separate
occassions that I was
to the California Park.
I would love to see what
they accomplished with
the Indiana Jones Ride
as well as California
Disney.
Too bad that a 3D version of
Captain E-O is not available
to package movie collectors.
But I wish we could get
our hands on
The Walt Disney Story.

Last but not least,
I appreciate the ambiance
of the Ca. Park, although
the Florida Park is much larger.
New Orleans Square,is a
beautiful entrance to the
Pirates in Disneyland.

Michael

Posted by Jean-Marc Toussaint (Member # 270) on July 29, 2006, 03:18 AM:

Michael, Indiana Jones is one of the most spectacular dark rides ever created (along with Spiderman at Islands of adventure).
California Adventure is a nice little park with some really cool attractions (Soaring over California is great) but their version of Tower of Terror isn't as good as its Florida counterpart. I'm looking forward to go back to CA, maybe this october, to try the new Monster Inc ride.

Steve, try to explain to your better half that a guy working in the amusement park business told you personnaly that going with young kids wasn't such a good idea, both for the kids and for the parents. I actually noticed that parents taking little children to big parks were just looking for a pretext to go themselves.
Big mistake.

Why don't you try to take your little one to Rye Playland, first? It's a charming place, especially on summer nights.

(And this is my 666th message, muwahahahahahaha)

Posted by Jan Bister (Member # 332) on July 29, 2006, 09:31 AM:

Yikes!

Watch out, Damien Thorn is amongst us!

[Razz]

Posted by Michael De Angelis (Member # 91) on July 29, 2006, 09:59 PM:

Jean-Marc,

Playland is a neat little park.

We had also had a family run park
here in western Nassau County for
about 56 years until it closed
in the Fall of 1995 - Nunley's Carousel.
The hand carved horses were gorgeous,
and that pipe organ and striking
of the huge cow bell,
indicated the start of the ride.

It was fun and affordable for all ages,
and a great date and family night in
the game arcade and on the
miniature golf course too.

Incidentally, on the same link is
information about Nathan's
Hot Dog Restaurant which was formally
in Oceanside Long Island.

I remember getting a ride during
the '70's to get down there with
my friends,and we would watch
on summer Wednesday nights,
16mm Blackhawk and Castle Comedies
by a private collector.
It was noisey and the echo
was tremendous, but a lot of fun
to watch all of our favorites on the
big screen. Chaplin, Laurel & Hardy,
W.C. Fields, Abbott & Costello etc.

The Westbury Drive-In is now part
of a Multiplex and shopping.
The UA Multiplex houses stadium seating.
I saw Pirates/2 there.
But when it was a Drive-In, they had 3 large
screens with separate films playing on each
screen. Your radio was tuned to a separate
frequency for each individual movie.

Here is the link:
Nunley's Carousel, Nathans and Drive-In

Michael

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