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Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 07, 2013, 02:07 PM:

Does anyone know when Agfa Gaevart S1 stock was manufactured. I have seen this listed among colour stock, but my film is monochrome.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 07, 2013, 02:55 PM:

For a second there, seeing the title, I thought this was a new business venture of yours, Robert.
[Smile]

But seriously, folks....the S1 (it's actually 1S and 2S) is, for all intents and purposes, meaningless. It's a slitter code, seen on both B&W and Colour stock, in my experience.

[ November 07, 2013, 05:21 PM: Message edited by: Michael O'Regan ]

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 08, 2013, 02:49 AM:

I don't think that date codes were ever on Agfa Geveart positive film, and as Michael says, the S1 and S2 are codes which refer to splitting from the original printing stock.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 08, 2013, 04:29 AM:

MIchael, the reason I asked is because I saw a film advertised (I think it was on an American site) and the seller said it was Agfa 2S, which, according to the seller dated it to the 1970s ; I have a TV show from the 50s which is Agfa 1S, so I wondered if it was made in the 50s or later.

Regarding the dating on Kodak prints, as they used the same symbols every ten years, how could you tell if your 1935 film release was printed in 1939,49,59,or 69.

Posted by Maurice Leakey (Member # 916) on November 08, 2013, 05:31 AM:

The two figure Eastman date codes changed every twenty years. It is something you just have to work out for yourself depending on the look and condition of the print.

Eastman obviously were worried and they adopted a three figure code in 1982.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 08, 2013, 05:45 AM:

Thank you Maurice.

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on November 08, 2013, 10:29 AM:

Robert, before 1964, Agfa and Gevaert were two different companies (one German and the other Belgian).

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on November 08, 2013, 12:34 PM:

Wasn't "Ansco-Chrome" the original name for Agfa film stock before it was Agfa? I have some lovely Disney standard 8mm cartoons that were printed on Ansco-Chrome, and they are as lovely as the day that they were printed!

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on November 08, 2013, 01:03 PM:

Osi, I think it was the American commercial name of Agfacolor.

Posted by Michael O'Regan (Member # 938) on November 08, 2013, 01:03 PM:

Anscochrome was in fact a stock marketed by Agfa after they had merged with Ansco. I don't think it preceded Agfa stock, as such. I'm pretty sure that Agfacolor stock existed at the same time as Anscochrome, though I'll stand corrected on that if anyone knows differently.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 08, 2013, 01:53 PM:

Thanks for that Dominique, actually my film says Geveart on the side, so were they originally separate companies?

Posted by Dominique De Bast (Member # 3798) on November 08, 2013, 02:19 PM:

Yes, Robert, Gevaert was a Belgian company and Agfa a German company. Agfa-Gevaert's headquarter is still located in Belgium.

Posted by Robert Crewdson (Member # 3790) on November 09, 2013, 03:43 AM:

Thanks Dominique. My 50s TV show print is probably from the 50s.

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