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  • Winbert Hutahaean
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    Now I know.. it is indeed ST-600 after comparing through google image with other ST-600 with black finisihed. It was my mistake that always thought ST-600 with silver finished so when seeing this color my mind went straight away to ST-800.

    i missed to see that switch track too.

    So back to the square one... you need GS-800 for a stereo machine with 800' capacity.

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  • Tom Photiou
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    Yep, i see that.


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  • Steve Klare
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    Correct!

    -the image isn’t too sharp, but does say “ST-600M”

    The ST-800 has a very tall exit chute to reach up to an 800 ft. reel. The ST-1200 does too, but it folds away to allow for a 1200 footer.

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  • Stuart Budd
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    I think the image is a 600. The 800 has a longer green exit track where as the 600 is a stubby.

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  • Tom Photiou
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    It is a track selector switch, on the ST1200/HDs its the same switch thats on the back, any Elmo twin track machine will have this switch!!

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  • Brian Fretwell
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    Duplicate advice deleted. I didn't see there was a second page.

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  • Martin Davey
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    Yes, i saw that switch too above what looks like a track selector. If it can play back a stereo print will depend on the audio output options. If it has outputs for both track one and track two, to line out to an external stereo amp then yes all is good. However if it only has a single monaural output jack then no, even if the switch is in the centre position. Instead the two channels will be combined in to one monaural source.

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  • Steve Carter
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    Looks like it's the switch above the volume control.

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  • Winbert Hutahaean
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    We learn something new everyday, and I just found out that ST-800 2 track version is available on the market. But I believe it is very rare.

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    This picture is taken from Facebook. I removed some object that is not relevant. Although it is clear to say 2 track, I don't see any button or switch to move the sound from track 1 to 2. Any idea?


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  • Paul Adsett
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    Where stereo sound really pays off is for listening via headphones, which I do very often. The sense of space and sound direction is quite superb with a good S8 stereo recording, and adds immensely to the enjoyment of the film especially musicals re-recorded from DVD.

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  • Winbert Hutahaean
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    Originally posted by Scott Walker View Post

    For the ST600 or the Elmo GS-800 they both do 800ft reels or is that not possible with the ST600? I have a reels on 800ft that I want to be able to play.

    Thanks for your help everyone
    If you do not do any modification, yes as other have said, the ST-600 can only play 600' reel.

    But as we know there are many people do modification on their projectors with arm extension, so you can use this method should you choose the ST-600 as your projector to play reel more than 600'.

    I once saw a ST-1200 (max 1200' reel) modified with 2200' reel arm. You can imagine, the projector does look tiny with the these two gigantic reels.

    cheers,

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  • Brian Fretwell
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    My Norisound 412 twin track can play back both tracks as a mono output and you can adjust the relative levels.

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  • Steve Klare
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    I've done the twin track to stereo trick with my ST-1200HD and the results were not very impressive. The two monitor outputs are very low in signal strength and by the time I boost them loud enough to make any kind of impact, the noise that also comes up takes all the joy out of it!

    -much better to blend the tracks and use the monaural jack on the back cover. It's not stereo, but the difference in audio quality more than makes up for that loss.

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  • Tom Photiou
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    All my single and twin track non stereo projectors get put through an old 1970s pioneer stereo amp, and with two Wharfedale speakers at the front i get fantastic glorious mono sound, i.e., twin mono and it blows the roof off if i need it to. My only true stereo machine, the Bauer T610 is a great stereo projector but the amount of true stereo films we have makes it almost pointless.
    With stereo, unless your sat in the centre of the speakers you hardly get much benefit, perhaps widescreen presentation get the advantage more, for us, the number one priority is the quality of the projected image. With the 1200HD's i understand you can use the two track outputs and, using a preamp, can get full stereo sound, something i've never bothered with for the handful of stereo prints we have.

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  • Brian Fretwell
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    Originally posted by Steve Klare View Post
    Yes,

    Basically you get away with stereo tracks on a monaural machine until you don't. There are many films that will be fine: for example Derann's Toy Story is stereo and goes off without anything funky coming out of the speakers. It's just you will also run into films that have issues.

    On a monaural machine, you only hear the main track because that's where the sound goes on a monaural print. On a stereo print the main track is Left and the balance track is Right, so a stereo film in this situation is All Left (-even though most of the time that's alright!)

    ST-600 is 600 Feet maximum.
    Yes, I think that Dolby's idea of making all main dialogue come from the centre speaker helps this a lot as it will be recorded at equal volume on both tracks for their original matrix system which was copied to Super 8 tracks. Surround was also at equal volume on both, but 50% lower and out of phase.

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