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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted November 06, 2004 03:26 PM
Hi Brad, Film Collectors Forum is probably a good name. I think the inclusion of all film sizes, including the occasional 9.5mm, is probably a good idea. I agree with Chris though, that I hope this will not eventually change this excellent forum to include digital video. There are plenty of other Forums on the web which already cover the "Home Theater" crowd. Let's restrict this forum to reel film. Maybe this should now be stated on the opening page, if you are going to change the Forum title from specifically 8mm.
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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted November 07, 2004 12:54 AM
When I became a member of this Forum, I appreciated and recognized the difference in the tone of the threads posted here as opposed to other Forums.
The 8mm collectors that have remained in 8mm, are all indebted to the late Derek Simmons and other Pioneer Legends in the small format Film Community that have worked to make the picture and sound quality in 8mm, a commodity that rivals and surpasses larger film formats in many ways.
Who would have ever imagined all of the wonderful shorts, features, documentaries that have became available over the past twenty years when video was forcing this format to succumb to a screetching halt?
The creativity and sweat of Derek, the successors at Derann, including his proteges and competitors and collectors have kept this small and unique community thriving.
Try and find a James Bond print in 16mm? Or the Wizard of Oz? Gone With the Wind? Many of these cost prohibited high ticket items in 16, are available in 8mm. The Star Wars Trilogy in Scope and Stereo, and any feature that will fit into your closet and not take up and inordinate amount of valuble space?
It's Fascinating how Keith Wilton, John Bird, J.Clancy Kev, M.Peckham Ian, Paul Foster, P. Sheard, (to name a few) have done to promote, create and share this unique hobby format with the world. That's what they do, and the key word is SHARE in capital letters.
The quality of the topics on the Forum has been outstanding, and the replies to the invaluable subjects remain focused and on course with the theme. The collectors here are serious about this aspect in collection. The deviation is slight, but everyone is learning from each other and having a good time as well.
This is due to the integrity of the members. They appreciate the craft, and remain loyal to its origins. The chat is never boastful or mean spirited, or bitchy to one another.
My experience has been that many 16mm and large format collectors have lost the appreciation and sense of wonder that is valuable to film, let alone in this format.
Is it only me that has noticed that the larger format collector, (aside from the likes of K.Wilton and the gang) are just out to take and not give back? They others all seem to have all of the answers, and they say nothing. Praise and appreciation on the other forums are few and far between. Incidentally, the previous nonsense that circulated on the other Forums regarding someone by the name of B. Miller became ugly, and it should not be brought here, and I don't ever wish to hear the likes of this baloney again. They should all get lost. It is interesting to have additional topic threads for 16mm. But, I hope that this does not invite the troublemakers. I would hope that larger format collectors, could value and appreciate and embrace our small gauge community too.
So Brad if need be, if you are considering a name change, please keep the name 8mm in the title. Perhaps 8mm plus, or 8mm Films and more.
As Christians say, Keep Christ in Christmas and don't make it 'X-Mas.' Likewise please don't 'X' out the '8' in 'mm.' It is what this was all founded upon, and we should keep it that way. Please keep in mind the core membership here, they are the ones that have kept it flowing. Kev. is close to 600 posts and counting. If this is not dedication, and the building of a sense of community, then I don't what else is there?
Best, Michael
-------------------- Isn't it great that we can all communicate about this great hobby that we love!
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Michael Bliss
Junior
Posts: 17
From: Radford, VA, USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted November 07, 2004 06:39 AM
Michael De Angelis wrote, "My experience has been that many 16mm and large format collectors have lost the appreciation and sense of wonder that is valuable to film, let alone in this format." I coudln't disagree more strongly. I'm a member of many film forums, in all gauges of film, since I'm not only interested in film as a collector and teacher of cinema, but n the whole film experience. I seriously doubt that the attitude that Michael mentions is true of the overwhelming majority of collectors, regardless of gauge, although I'll grant that there's a bit of elitism among 35mm collectors. Nonetheless, virtually ALL collectors love film for itself, regardless of the size of the film stock.
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