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Mike Peckham
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- posted September 24, 2006 09:20 AM      Profile for Mike Peckham   Email Mike Peckham   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Guys

As many of you will know, I have for some time been collecting the digests released by MGM. I've nearly got a complete set now [Big Grin] .

However, I still haven't established what # M31 was. Non of my catalogues make referene to it, but as the numbers all run consecutively, and there are numbers M32 M33 & M34, I'm thinking there must have been an M31. Does anyone know what it was?

Here's the rest of the list;

M1 Dr Zhivago
M2 Ivanhoe
M3 Shaft
M4 Quo Vadis
M5 The Wizard of Oz
M6 An American in Paris
M7 Logans Run
M8 The Dirty Dozen
M9 Easter Parade
M10 Mutiny on the Bounty
M11 How the West was Won
M12 King Solomons Mines
M13 International Velvet
M14 Coma
M15 Singin' in the Rain Pt1
M16 Singin' in the Rain Pt2
M17 Show Boat
M18 Mogambo
M19 A Night at The Opera Pt1
M20 A night at the Opera Pt2
M21 Anchors Aweigh
M22 Gigi
M23 North by North west
M24 Ben Hur
M25 Where Eagles Dare
M26 The Champ
M27 West World
M28 Ice Station Zebra
M29 High Society 2 x parts
M30 Seven Brides for Seven Brothers 2 x parts
M31 ?
M32 Northwest Passage
M33 Guns for San Sebastien
M34 Fame 2x parts

The following appeared to be available as 3 x 400 ft only;

M35 The Formula
M36 Clash of the Titans
M37 ?
M38 ?
M39 Cincinatti Kid

I'm also aware that the following were available as 3 x 400fters;

M1 Dr Zhivago
M4 Quo Vadis
M6 An American in Paris
M8 The Dirty Dozen
M10 Mutiny on the Bounty
M24 Ben Hur
M25 Where Eagles Dare
M27 West World
M28 Ice Station Zebra
M33 Guns for St Sebastien

The Time Machine
Viva Las Vegas

Were there any others?

Thanks

Mike [Smile]

[ September 26, 2006, 12:12 PM: Message edited by: Mike Peckham ]

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Barry Attwood
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Mike,

You can add "The Time Machine" & "Viva Las Vegas" & "The Cincinatti Kid" to the 3x400' section, these 3 were Ken's last foray into the edited field. You've also forgotten "Ben-Hur" 3x400' & "Westworld" 3x400' too, perhaps this is M31 ("Westworld"), as I believe they released a 400' to this film too.

Barry.

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Mike Peckham
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Hi Barry

Thanks, West World is M27 so that doesn't solve the problem of the mysterious M31 [Smile] .

I'd forgotten about the 3 x 400ft of West World, I already have that one in my collection along with The Formula, which I also forgot to list. I'll pop back and edit them in now.

Were the "Time Machine", "Viva Las Vegas" and "The Cincinatti Kid" released in the same MGM livery with clam shell cases?

Mike

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Douglas Meltzer
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Mike,

Still looking for #31, but to help complete the list, "The Formula" is M35 and "Clash Of The Titans" is M36.

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Trevor Adams
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Quo Vadis? 3x400 [Smile]

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Barry Attwood
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- posted September 25, 2006 02:49 AM      Profile for Barry Attwood   Email Barry Attwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mike,

The last 3 releases were in clamshell boxes, but there was no proper artwork for the U.K. for these titles, and only the title was present on each box plus what part it was.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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Hi Mike,

Cincinnati Kid is M39.

It does not have artworks cover but plain paper, unless you clik on this URL you will see the only one cover was ever made for it [Wink]

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David Kilderry
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Hi Mike and other MGM collectors,

Sorry I can't help with M31, but want to know the answer too. Perhaps it was reserved for a title that was not released?

I have noticed that some of my clamshell MGM's have started to be effected by Vinegar Syndrome. I belive this is due to the air-tight seal of the clamshell. It is only a slight whiff at this stage, but there is no doubt it is there.

Have you noticed this with yours?

The only other Super 8/Std 8 with VS that I have are a few I had stored in air-tight cans. All my film is now stored so it can breath.

David

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Barry Attwood
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"Guns For San Sebastien" is M33, by the way. If my memory serves me there was a 400' of "On The Town", I wonder if this is the elusive M31.

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Tony Milman
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Not the Rose by any chance [Big Grin]

Must be a few hundred copies of M31 at the bottom of Grandpa's shed. Ian, can you shed any light on this?

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Andreas Eggeling
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Life is far too short.

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Mike Peckham
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Andreas

Thanks for that, it almost makes sense but not quite as my copies of Seven Brides are marked on the spine;

M30 - 1
M30 - 2

Maybe the intention was that they should be M30 & M31 but that's not how it turned out? Maybe we wil never know...

David

I haven't noticed the dreaded vinegar syndrome on any of my MGMs but now you've mentioned it, I'll go have a sniff.

Winbert

Great Cover design! [Smile]

Thanks everyone else for the additional titles, I'll edit them into the list.

Mike [Smile]

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Knut Nordahl
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quote:
I have noticed that some of my clamshell MGM's have started to be effected by Vinegar Syndrome. I belive this is due to the air-tight seal of the clamshell. It is only a slight whiff at this stage, but there is no doubt it is there.

Have you noticed this with yours?
I sniffed my MGM's yesterday (clam shell) and I think some smell like vinegar. Some have a more chemical smell, not completely vinegar I’m not sure what. All films stored in cardboard boxes just smelled like old newspapers to me.

Does this mean that I've caught it in time you think?

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Mike,

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This sheet was included in one of my MGM catalogs. M31 is noticeably missing. Also noticeable is the misspelling of "separately".

Doug

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Andreas Eggeling
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Life is far too short.

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Eberhard Nuffer
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Barry, Winbert,

UFA in Germany imported MGM's three-parter of "Cincinnati Kid", and they designed really nice covers. Follow this link: http://www.super-8-hobby.de/rezent217.htm

Doug,

...and also noticeable is the misspelling of "available"...

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Thanks Eberhard,

I have found that. But IMO the great thing with the MGM covers are they mostly painted (not photo shots as most Germany versions). That's why I am not too interested with "Formula"...which was also presented with photo shots for USA version.

Any idea which other MGM USA versions were presented with photos?

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My "A Night At The Opera" (both parts) and some of U-8 releases have that "vinegary" smell to them. Does this mean they won't project properly if I run them?

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Brad, keep them away from your other film and let them breathe. They will still project OK if you stop the process. You can buy molecular seives to absorb the smell. Once the process starts, it feeds on itself. If you stop it early enough before the film shinks or buckles it can last for years.

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If they have started best thing you can do is pop them in the bin and buy another affordable copy.
Best mark.

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Can any of you (Mike?) tell me if "King Solomon's Mines" and "How the West Was Won" were available as three-parters? Thanks.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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JM,

I don't think so . I never seen one.

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Barry Attwood
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Jean-Marc,

Kempski touted a possible 2x600' release in scope of "How the West was Won" but I never did see a print (They also touted F/L "You Only Live Twice", again I never heard of a print).

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Thank you, my expert friends. [Wink]

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I get the distict impression that M31 was supposed to be part 2 of (what was it? Brides of Seven Brothers?), but they failed to list it as 31.

I could be wrong of course.

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