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Ian Mackie
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posted September 09, 2008 07:41 AM

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Hello everyone!

I'm just starting to get into 8mm so need a little advice...

I've been offered an Elmo SP Hi-Deluxe projector but as I'm new to 8mm I'm not sure if it is broken, and I have no film to test it with! (getting my camera soon!)

When I fire it up there is very little light coming from the lamp - does this only happen when there is film running through it?? I have the projector on the highest lamp setting.

Is it worth taking a plunge and buying it - as a judging from some of your posts on here, it's not a bad little projector.

Any thoughts / advice much appreciated!!

Best regards,

Ian

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Knut Nordahl
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posted September 09, 2008 08:14 AM

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Hi Ian and welcome to the forum. If i remember correct, that machine has got the 1.1 lens that you can use in other ELMO projectors. Nifty. If you get a Elmo GS 800 or better a GS1200 later on you may have a brighter lens there in that De-Luxe for a possible GS800/1200 buy. (It's wise to plan ahed you know ;-)

I think you need to run film through the projector for it to light up. I seem to remember that i won't light up without it. Had a GP once)

It also has a sync option (wich is very rare, but you most likely will never use) and you can sync to 24 fps, dead on. Its a cool projector. My GP was quite noizy though. But bright!.

I say go for it if you are thinking of getting an ELMO GS/ST later and it has the 1.1 lens and it is not to expensive.

Hell, just go for it -Film rules!

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Mike Peckham
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posted September 09, 2008 08:53 AM

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Hi Ian

Welcome to the forum!

Every thing Knut says about this great little projector is spot on. I have one, though I haven't used it for some time, but I do remember that it has a microswitch that is operated when the film reaches the take up spool and until the microswitch is operated, the lamp remains off. I think...

Let us know how you get on.

Mike [Cool]

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 09, 2008 09:15 AM

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Hey thanks for the replies Kurt and Mike,

Some speedy and knowledgeable advice!

Well it looks like I'll go for it then [Embarrassed]

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I'll buy it tonight then let you know how I got on.

Fingers crossed hehehe

Ian

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Rob Koeling
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posted September 09, 2008 09:18 AM

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Hi Ian,

That is a nice little projector indeed. Mike hasn't used his in a while, mostly because it has done lenghty service her in Brighton... I've used it a lot for watching silent films (both R8 and S8; it can do both). The nice things about it are the superb lens; the 150Watt halogen bulb; and the fact that you can vary the speed from 16fps to 25fps (which is great for silent films, because the projection speed hadn't been standardized yet).

If you want to test the projector with some film, let me know, I've got some stuff you can play with (and I'm local).

I saw you posted another message about music promo's. Be aware that this projector can't do sound-on-film.

Cheers,

- Rob

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 09, 2008 09:45 AM

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Rrrrrr no sound??!

That's a shame.

Hmmmmm. Any new 8mmm I shoot myself won't have sound on anyway, so the projector would be excellent for this. But it would have been nice to watch other sound films/music videos etc...

Perhaps I should get a sound projector too??

Oh dear!! This is where it starts I reckon! I'll have collected about 10 projectors in 6 months time you watch!

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 09, 2008 12:19 PM

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Well...

...I bought it! heheheehee

I managed to get an old standard 8mm film to test it with but now I don't know how to load it!

Ho-hum!

Let the fun begin! [Big Grin]

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I'll try to find a manual online but I'll see if I can work it out!

Thanks again for all the replies,

Ian

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Mike Peckham
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posted September 09, 2008 01:11 PM

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Ian

Well done for buying the projector - I look forward to hearing how you get on with it.

I don't have a scan of the instruction manual, but I do have the test report for the SP Hi Deluxe scanned from Movie Maker Magazine. If you like I could email it to you.

Mike

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 09, 2008 01:44 PM

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Hi Mike,

That would be fab! Thanks!

Anything to help is a bonus.

My email address is: ian dot mackie at email.com

I'm sure it'll all come good in the end!

Ian

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Kevin Faulkner
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posted September 09, 2008 06:12 PM

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Hi Ian,

See your new to the forum and great to have you aboard. I have edited your email address above so that any email address scanning software doesn't pick it up.

There is scanning software about which can be used on open forums for getting email addresses for spam etc.

The format I used will still allow people to work out your email address to contact you. Try and use that format in future to help keep you mail box free of unwanted mail.

In the meantime enjoy [Smile]

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I too have one of these silent machines and great little machine they are too but a little on the noisy side. You will soon suss it out I'm sure.

Kev.

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Knut Nordahl
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posted September 10, 2008 01:43 AM

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I think I still have the manual at home. I'll check after work.

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Rob Koeling
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posted September 10, 2008 07:45 AM

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I scanned the Instruction Manual and sent it to Brad to include in the Manual section (Manual Warehouse at Filmtech)

- Rob

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 10, 2008 02:20 PM

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Hi everyone!

Well everything is peachy - the projector works great!

Rob Koeling very kindly let me borrow a rell to test out the projector and also scanned me in a manual. Thanks Rob!

So all is good!

The image is very good, but I have noticed there is some small hairline-like looking cracks on the inner edge of the projection, but I guess that's another thread altogether! [Embarrassed]

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Thanks everyone for the advice and help, much appreciated.

Best regards,

Ian

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Bart Smith
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posted September 10, 2008 03:28 PM

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The 'cracks' are almost certainly just bits of dust and crap caught in the gate.

Swing the lens out and give it a good clean!

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Ian Mackie
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posted September 11, 2008 07:09 AM

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And they we're too! Just tiny tiny bits of fluff.

Just needed a bit of a clean and good as new again.

God you know everything you lot! [Smile]

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