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Mark Todd
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From: UK
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posted July 26, 2015 07:42 AM

My self, honestly, of the proper releases, non at all except a few optical sort of new/ex airline ones they sourced.

But I did buy an aweful lot of trailers new over the years.

Best Mark.

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Dominique De Bast
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posted July 26, 2015 08:04 AM

I think two : The Wizard Of Oz and An American In Paris. You could pay in six times.

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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posted July 26, 2015 08:24 AM

I did used to buy from their second hand lists it has to be said as their feature prices tended to be out of reach for me back then with having far more pressing things my money was assigned to in those days.

I did however buy Mary Poppins brand new when they offered the pay later scheme. It took me 6 months to completely pay it off but back then I was also buying a fair amount of Super 8mm Sound camera stock which was never cheap.

I had around 30 features by the time I sold them all back to Derann.
I also had quite a lot of abridged features and 2x400ft universal prints that I bought new.
All of my collection back then was either purchased solely from Derann or from an earlier time from Jubilee Film Services.

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 26, 2015 08:39 AM

The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
Gone with the wind
Sound of music full feature
Carry on abroad
Above us the waves,
The Avengers return of the cybernauts
The Avengers positive negative man
Carry on up the jungle
Gremlins, 2 x 600ft
Romancing the Stone
The fog
Grease scope feature
Star Wars
Terminator 2
The Wild Geese 3 x 400
And i am still looking for more with Silence of the lambs and Die Hard at the top of the list. [Wink]

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 26, 2015 08:42 AM

Very nice collection Tom! Some absolute belters in there!! [Wink]

We will share ownership of Silence when a good one finally appears! [Big Grin]

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Brian Fretwell
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posted July 26, 2015 08:58 AM

Carry on Screaming
The Scars of Dracula
Those Magnificent men in their Flying Machines
The Sound of Music
Hello Dolly
All slight seconds (lab/stripe faults on at least on parts)
Romancing the Stone
Goldfinger
Lust for a Vampire (4 x 400), lab grading error print getting worse and worse (paler) by the reel.
and various other odd reels

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 26, 2015 09:07 AM

I have a couple of white box specials of Romancing The Stone reels 1 and 4. They both contain a certain amount of white flecks from the negative but otherwise are ok. The colour grading and condition otherwise is very good.

So my question to Brian and Tom is this...

On the last reel, there is a section in the film where they are in a cave, despite the colour and grading being apparently spot on, this section is so dark that the image even without a scope lens is barely visible on any machine other than the Beaulieu on two shutter mode.

Are they all like this?
This has kind of put me off really ever pursuing the missing reels or indeed finding a complete feature and keeping my odd reels as spares.

It's a film I like and it would reinstall my faith in it on 8 if I thought that mine was a one off.

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 26, 2015 09:16 AM

I shall check that this week

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 26, 2015 09:19 AM

Thanks Tom [Razz]

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Paul Adsett
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posted July 26, 2015 11:49 AM

Dracula 3 x 600
Genevieve 3x600
Show Boat 4x600
Singin' in the rain 4x 600
High Society 4x 600
Meet Me In StLouis 4x 600
Grease scope 4 x 600
That's Entertainment 1 4 x 600
That's Entertainment 3 4 x 600
Lady and the tramp scope 2 x 800
American In Paris 4 x 600
Shane 4 x 600
Masque of the red death scope2 x 800
First men in the moon scope 3 x 600

[ July 27, 2015, 06:14 PM: Message edited by: Paul Adsett ]

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 26, 2015 02:36 PM

Fabulous selection of films. Once again, some wonderful titles there Paul including a few of my favourite musicals.

Musicals are just so very repeatable in my book, I just love em!

I can feel a "My Secret Love" moment coming on [Big Grin]

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Rob Young.
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posted July 27, 2015 02:27 AM

I've sold many on, but from memory;

The Lion King.
Aladdin.
Cinderella.
The Aristocats.
Sleeping Beauty.
The Sword in the Stone.
Beauty and the Beast.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Star Wars.
Raiders of the Lost Ark (legend has it Derann sound striped these early copies from Germany).
Star Trek Generations (an "import"!!).
Aliens.
The Terminator.
Terminator II.
Predator.
Speed.
Jack the Giant Killer.
Forbidden Planet.
The African Queen.
The Curse of Frankenstein.
The Reptile.

Not forgetting my treasured 2 x 600ft Gremlins which was my Christmas present when I was 15.

I think that's it, but my memory isn't what it used to be!!

Also, lots of shorts and a collection of about 200 trailers!

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 27, 2015 03:27 AM

Half the entire catalogue there Rob! [Big Grin]

Just add items from the classic musicals section and we are almost there!!

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Mark Silvester
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From: England
Registered: Oct 2007

posted July 27, 2015 03:33 AM

Hi all

I owned an awful lot of their stuff but actually bought very few "new" features as most I bough 2nd hand, etc. Some that I did by from Derann were - not necessarily their own releases either but I purchased them there:

"American in Paris"; "101 Dalmatians"; "PInnochio";"Suspicion"; "Dead of Night"; "Snow White";"Convict 99"
[Smile]

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Luis Caramelo
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posted July 27, 2015 06:44 AM

here,s mines:full lenghts:

-the fog.
-alien.
-star wars
-the terminator.
-the predator.
-horror of dracula.
-shane.
-singing in the rain.
-seven brides for seven brothers.
-the sound of music.
-hawk the slayer.
vampire circus.
-snow white and the seven dwarfs.
-pinochio.
goldfinger

best;

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Tom Photiou
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posted July 27, 2015 06:49 AM

99% of ours were second hand, the savings then were nuts, today it would be cheaper to buy them new [Big Grin]

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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From: Manchester Uk
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posted July 27, 2015 08:40 AM

So who actually purchased all of these second hand prints as brand new prints seeing as it wasn't many of us on here it would seem?

Maybe Derann just threw a couple of brand new ones straight onto the second hand lists almost immediately if they were having a bad couple of months with sales! [Big Grin]

Surely Lee must have purchased quite a lot of brand new features back in the day? Any others on here who purchased plenty?

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted July 27, 2015 01:43 PM

Well here's my list not complete though

The Lion King
Beauty and the Beast
The Avengers: Return of the Cybernauts
The Avengers: Positive Negative Man
The Avengers: Living Dead
Gremlins, 2 x 600ft
The Fog
The Wild Geese 3 x 400
Carry on Screaming
The Scars of Dracula
Those Magnificent men in their Flying Machines
Goldfinger
Lust for a Vampire*
The Reptile
Twins of Evil (Very dark)
Dracula
Scars Of Dracula
Dambusters
Lady and the tramp scope
Jason and the Argounauts.
Aladdin.
Cinderella.
The Aristocats.
Sleeping Beauty.
The Sword in the Stone.
Beauty and the Beast.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Jack the Giant Killer.*
Devil Rides Out
Quatermass Experiment
Quatermass II
Quatermass and the Pit
Lavender Hill Mob*
Island Of Terror
No Limit*
G.I. Blues* I think Derann
X the Unknown
Plague of the Zombies
The Mummy
Three Musketeers
Vampire Circus
101 Dalmatians
Snow White

Most bought new. * Used

Looking at my list Derann were top of my purchases. Walton, PM Films Powell DCR. Down a lot lower for purchases. Altough I did buy some Derann releases from PM Films if they had an offer on.

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Keith Ashfield
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posted July 27, 2015 01:46 PM

Derann feature titles obtained since 2007, some obtained new, most "used" from various sources.
Some titles have since been "passed on" to fellow collectors for "safe keeping and their enjoyment".

Purchased NEW
ABYSS - Scope
ALIENS
CALAMITY JANE
CIRCUS WORLD - Scope
DAMBUSTERS
DISNEY'S TRICKS OF THE TRADE
GOLDFINGER
GREMLINS
LITTLE MERMAID
LOGAN'S RUN - Scope
MEET ME IN ST.LOUIS
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN - Scope
PREDATOR
PRINCE AND THE PAUPER
SECRET OF NIMH
SNOWMAN
TERMINATOR 2 - Scope
THAT'S CARRY ON
THUNDERBALL - Scope
WALLACE & GROMMIT - A GRAND DAY OUT
WILD GEESE

Purchase USED
BATTLE OF BRITAIN - Scope OPTICAL
CANNONBALL RUN 2 - OPTICAL
CITY HEAT - OPTICAL
CROCODILE DUNDEE - OPTICAL
DR.NO - OPTICAL
FISH CALLED WANDA - OPTICAL
FORCE 10 FROM NAVARONE - OPTICAL
FOURTH PROTOCOL - OPTICAL
FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE - OPTICAL
LETHAL WEAPON - OPTICAL
MEMORIES OF ME - OPTICAL
OVER THE TOP - OPTICAL
POLICE ACADEMY 2 - OPTICAL
REMO WILLIAMS - THE ADVENTURE BEGINS - OPTICAL
REVENGE OF THE PINK PANTHER - OPTICAL
ROLLERCOASTER - OPTICAL
SEA WOLVES - OPTICAL
SHOT IN THE DARK - OPTICAL
SPACEBALLS - OPTICAL
SUPERMAN 3 - OPTICAL
UNTOUCHABLES - OPTICAL

Purchased USED
101 DALMATIONS
633 SQUADRON
A NIGHT TO REMEMBER
ADVENTURES OF ICHABOD & MR. TOAD
ADVENTURES OF ROBIN HOOD
AFRICAN QUEEN
ANGELS WITH DIRTY FACES
BAMBI
BANDWAGON
CAPRICORN ONE - Scope
CRUEL SEA
DEVIL RIDES OUT
DIE HARD - Scope
DIRTY DOZEN
DODGE CITY
DRACULA - PRINCE OF DARKNESS - Scope
EASTER PARADE
ELSTREE STORY
GENEVIEVE
GIGI - Scope
GLENN MILLER STORY
HAPPIEST DAYS OF YOUR LIFE
HAWK THE SLAYER
HELLO DOLLY - Scope
HOBSON'S CHOICE
JASON & THE ARGONAUTS
JOLSON STORY
JUNGLE BOOK
KING AND I - Scope
LADY AND THE TRAMP - Scope
LEAGUE OF GENTLEMEN
LION KING
MAGIC BOX
MICKEY'S CHRISTMAS CAROL
MURDER ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
OH MR PORTER
ONCE UPON A MOUSE
PINOCCHIO
RAILWAY CHILDREN
RAISE THE TITANIC - Scope
REACH FOR THE SKY
RESCUERS DOWN UNDER
SAN FRANCISCO
SEVEN BRIDES FOR SEVEN BROTHERS
SEVENTH VOYAGE OF SINBAD
SHANE
SHOWBOAT
SMALL ONE
SMALLEST SHOW ON EARTH
SNOW WHITE AND THE SEVEN DWARFS
SOME LIKE IT HOT
SOUND OF MUSIC - Scope
TERMINATOR
THAT'S DANCING
THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT
THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT 2
THERE'S NO BUSINESS LIKE SHOW BUSINESS - Scope
THOSE MAGNIFICENT MEN IN THEIR FLYING MACHINES - Scope
THREE MUSKETEERS
TILL THE CLOUDS ROLL BY
TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT
TOM THUMB
TOP HAT
TOY STORY
TROUBLE IN STORE
WAKE OF THE RED WITCH
WAR GAMES
WHISKY GALORE
WHO DARES WINS
WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT
WINNIE THE POOH AND A BLUSTERY DAY
YANKEE DOODLE DANDY

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David Ollerearnshaw
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posted July 27, 2015 02:27 PM

A few more

LITTLE MERMAID
NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN - Scope
SNOWMAN
THAT'S CARRY ON
THUNDERBALL - Scope
CITY HEAT - OPTICAL
SEA WOLVES
633 SQUADRON
BAMBI
DIRTY DOZEN
DRACULA - PRINCE OF DARKNESS - Scope
JUNGLE BOOK
RAISE THE TITANIC - Scope
RESCUERS DOWN UNDER
TITFIELD THUNDERBOLT

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Mark Williams
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posted July 27, 2015 03:27 PM

New

Blood on Satans Claw
Quatermass Xperiment
Quatermass 2
That'll be the Day
Night of the Living a Dead
The Smallest Show on Earth
Clara's Heart Optical
The Golden Seal Optical
I don't want to be Born
Dracula Prince of Darkness
Plague of the Zombies
The Devil Rides Out
Lust for a Vampire

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Andrew Woodcock
Film God

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posted July 27, 2015 03:34 PM

Keith's Aladdins cave never ceases to amaze me!

One look at Keith's collection both past and present and you simply cannot help but be smitten for life with S8 film!

His list is of titles is simply incredible!!!

Definitely a kid in a sweet shop moment when viewed! [Smile]

David appears to be leading the way in actual new feature films purchased in the actual era they were released.

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Paul Suchy
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posted July 27, 2015 03:58 PM

I had never heard of Derann before the internet, so I arrived late to the party. In 2000, I received an email from my credit card company telling me my credit limit had increased; the very next email was news that Derann was having a 20% discount sale on new prints. I purchased THE WIZARD OF OZ, HELLO DOLLY, THE HUNCHBACK OF NOTRE DAME, and DIE HARD all in a single order. That was my first and last purchase of new prints from Derann (which is fine, because those were the only titles I really wanted).

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Andrew Woodcock
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posted July 27, 2015 04:21 PM

All very nice titles just the same Paul. Not a bad one amongst them! [Smile]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted July 28, 2015 02:37 AM

I think there is a little confusion here. Are we talking buying Derann releases (F/L) or buying FROM Derann....??

For the later I don't see any point here, because we can buy them from any dealers.

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