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Topic: Looking For : "THE SNOWMAN"
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 19, 2016 09:14 AM
Phil, I have the stereo version which I purchased from Jean-Marc Tussaint a few years ago. The print is perfect, very sharp, and excellent pastel colors. The stereo sound was very good, but my particular print exhibited some WOW. So I did a re-record from the DVD using my Eumig S938, and ended up with a great stereo re-record. So if you come across just the mono version I would not let that deter you from purchasing it, as a stereo re-record of this particular film is not hard to do - there is NO talking!
-------------------- The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection, Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Andrew Woodcock
Film God
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From: Manchester Uk
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted December 19, 2016 09:19 AM
That is an impossible question to answer in all honesty Phil.
There can be so much difference in the recording standards of these prints at times depending on when it was originally purchased, any given day etc etc.
I purchased mine as a stereo print and it was ok, but the difference recording it again makes from a digital master, is unbelievable!
I don't believe from the original tracks supplied by Derann, it would make that much of a difference as to which one you HAVE to find.
Either type will have the necessary balance track provided to allow you to be able to give it a far superior recording than it undoubtedly came with.
No lip sync on this one to concern yourself with, keep it within +/- .2 of a second throughout and it'll look fine, the easiest of any film to record again.
Timings are not AS critical as recording a film with lots and lots of dialogue within it.
BTW, Paul's advice above is of course, absolutely spot on but I would also add, even when it is far more difficult to do on "talky" films such as Hello Dolly for example,.. it is still ALWAYS ALWAYS worth the effort required to achieve a decent result. There is simply no comparison between what CAN be achieved and what IS to begin with.
This even applies to the best of them on pre laminated striped stock. The better it is to begin with, the better you can now make it!
It gives any film, but particularly any film with any musicality attachment, an entire new lease of life!
-------------------- "C'mon Baggy..Get with the beat"
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Paul Adsett
Film God
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From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted December 19, 2016 04:14 PM
WOW is a fluctuation in sonic pitch, usually due to a cyclic variation in film speed over the sound head, caused by mechanical eccentricity of the sound capstan, or fluctuating tension on the film take up. It can originate at the sound recording stage when the film is first being recorded by the manufacturer, so that the recording itself permanently has WOW present. It can also be totally a problem caused by the projector, some projectors apparently being much more prone to WOW than others. In the case of The Snowman the evidence suggests that the WOW is on the sound track as recorded by Derann, and the only solution is a re-record. Thankfully, the DVD is free of any WOW, and as Andrew has said, a stellar stereo re-recording is not at all hard to do on this particular film. And well worth while, as the music and singing of Walking In the Air is just beautiful. The Snowman is an 8mm film to be treasured. Can't wait to see my print once more on Christmas Eve.
-------------------- The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection, Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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