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Mark Norton
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 - posted August 06, 2018 01:39 PM      Profile for Mark Norton   Author's Homepage   Email Mark Norton   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I am looking to buy one of Ugo Grassi's remanufactured Elmo GS1200 Xenon lamps.

Unfortunately I have had no luck contacting him as I believe he has left the hobby and all the old contacts for him are now obsolete.

If by chance anyone on here knows him i would be greatfull if they could pass this message on to him.

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Paul Browning
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Mark, you might want to try Bill Parsons as I believe he used the lamp Ugo Grassi was having made, and helped to verify it was as good and even better than the original Toshiba lamp. I know he sang the praise of the lamp, and may have a spare lamp he could sell you.

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Mark Norton
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Thanks Paul, but Bill has not got Ugo's contact details either.

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Luigi Castellitto
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Mark, I've never met Ugo, and I don't read about it anymore on the Italian forums, maybe he really abandoned the hobby.
But I knew that Maurizio Di Cintio, who is on this forum, knew him (on internet or in person), maybe he can help you get in touch with him.

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Winbert Hutahaean
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 - posted August 09, 2018 05:11 PM      Profile for Winbert Hutahaean   Email Winbert Hutahaean   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Do you guys realize that we are dealing with the same person here:

https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ugo_Grassi

(Google translator: in English)

This is Ugo's profile in 8mmforum

Both location in the above links show Avellino, so must be the same person. He is a senator now...so he might not leave the hobby but is just busy with his current position.

I have just in touched with him and he is confirming that as a Senator (at national level) is not an easy job. For those who want to see in the parliament here is his latest speech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0SEYudRcQg&feature=youtu.be&app=desktop

[ August 09, 2018, 06:52 PM: Message edited by: Winbert Hutahaean ]

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Steven J Kirk
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Mark, I have emailed you an email that I have for Ugo. Even if he is not active in super 8 he undoubtedly still has his equipment and lamps.

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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Since Luigi mentioned me, I must say I am not in the position to give any info regarding Senator Grassi.

I suggest Mark follow advice from other forum members to fulfill his needs. Regards.

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Mark Norton
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Thank's Steven, but still no luck.

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Steven Sigel
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FYI - If you need a source for GS-1200 Xenon lamps, Superior Quartz in Pennsylvania has them. I sent them one to clone years ago.

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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I have one of them, too but whilst probably a little brighter, the arc is less consistent than the orginal Toshiba lamps and the light on the screen almost imperceptibly flickers... Barely noticeable, but if possible, I'd rather go for an original Toshiba or a Chinese clone....

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Steven J Kirk
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Phil Sheard at CHC did have a few of the Toshiba originals but last time I asked he wanted £450 a piece for them. Too much for me. I did find one on German eBay at about £150 at some point. Wittner had the SQ clones also but again over £350 I think.

Ugo would be worth pursuing though because he has all the lamps. In addition to his own commissioned Chinese ones I know he had SQ clones he would probably part with cheaply too.

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Kevin Clark
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A question I should have thought of when I owned my Elmo xenon projectors - do the Toshiba and original Elmo xenon lamps (all now up to 30 years old) have a 'use by' date, as if this is the case many of the 'new / old stock' ones dealers are still trying to get huge sums for would by now be fit only for the dump?

Regarding Ugo - I once bought two of his Chinese GS1200 xenon lamps but never used them they went to Bill and then into other machines that were in for repair. Ugo may well have decided that servicing and dealing in cine projector spares is not appropriate now he has a full time prominent political career?

Kevin

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Maurizio Di Cintio
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I do not think these lamps have a "use by" date so if you find an original spare, you should go for it even though £ 450 is really steep for me...

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Paul Browning
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Do the Chinese copy's use quartz glass to make the envelope, as this is one of the reasons they are cheaper to make, however I was told that because the gas molecules are smaller than the glass molecules they escape through the gaps, so over 30 years you could loose some to the outside giving a shorter life span, lending credence to Kevin's argument. I do recall Bill saying how good they were, but its not helping Marks search for a lamp....

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