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Rob Buttrum
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From: Denton, TX USA
Registered: Jun 2008

posted April 11, 2011 11:27 PM

im working on an experimental 8mm film that i am planning on doing a lot of fast editing so tons of cuts and splices. so im trying to figure out some options. i came across a hot film splicer and it looks awesome, but i have a few questions.

1. how exactly does it work? (does it just melt the film together?)
2. how good of a splice is it, does it hold up?
3. does it have to be poly film only or can it be acetone?
4.anyone have any experience / pros or cons to these machines?

-Thank you any help would be great!!!

-Rob

EDIT** just found out its still a cement splicer, just warms / drys the glue faster, still anyone have anything to say about these machines??

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Dino Everette
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Long Beach, CA USA
Registered: Dec 2008

posted April 12, 2011 01:25 AM

It has to be acetate film as you cannot use cement on polyester film, you would need an ultrasonic splicer.. They are great splicers for a brand new production (provided your cement is good), but not so good on older films since the only way to make splices is to cut frames

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Jim Schrader
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From: Savage, MN, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 12, 2011 09:43 AM

I have one of these Maier Hancock yes they are nice but you loose frames not bad if there is no talking basically the splicer has a scrapper once the film is cut you scrap the emulsion from one of the ends of the film then apply the cement bring the 2 ends together in which they overlap the cement bonds them together and with the mild heat applied help the cement dry faster. here is a video of how it works hope it plays.you will need quicktime installed to view it.
http://www.folkstreams.net/vafp/video/VAFP_29//VAFP_29-mp4.mov

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Rob Buttrum
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From: Denton, TX USA
Registered: Jun 2008

posted April 12, 2011 03:34 PM

thanks!

also have a few more quick questions:

when splicing with cement, there is no way not to "lose frames" correct? because the emulsion has to be scraped and the film overlapped to make the splice. correct?

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Dino Everette
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From: Long Beach, CA USA
Registered: Dec 2008

posted April 12, 2011 05:55 PM

Correct, the only way not to is if you have a film with an existing splice that has come apart it is possible to re-splice that section without losing a frame, but all new splice lose frames [Frown]

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