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Osi Osgood
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" They ain't no Disney Timothy...that's for sure! "

True, but then the Fleischer studio had it's own charm and "urban" comedy and style, while Disney had that farmyard "west coast" style, and while Disney was the greatest at "technical" animation (to this day, in my opinion), The Fleischers films were far funnier and the humor tends to hold up better than in the Disney's.

I rarely watch any of the Disney shorts anymore, but I still regularly view the Fleischer "catalog". [Smile]

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Lee Mannering
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Always loved it and always will. A wonderful memory from my childhood and with a message if you know the film. 10/10 for Hoppity!

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Brian Fretwell
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I bought a Derann LPP print of this from CHC at the weekend and before the Derann logo it has "An Ivy Film\16 presentation" title card. There is no 8mm splice so I assume this was from the master used. The colour seems the same as in Kevin's print.

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Leon Norris
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I just picked up a print of this film. On 2×800 ft reels. I see it starts off with the NTA logo! It looks pretty sharp with good color! I don't know who released the copy I have? Its not on the leader! But its very injoyable! A real crowd pleaser!

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Panayotis A. Carayannis
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The film's original title is MR BUG GOES TO TOWN.In England it was renamed HOPPITY GOES TO TOWN,perhaps due to fear of aversion to bugs!,and sworn of a few minutes. So,copies deriving from American or British originals are titled accordingly.
Plus,it was Fleiscer and not Lantz who made the "Relativity" feature.

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Leon Norris
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I would like to know how many features the Fleischer studio put out? And is it true that they were going to use Popeye for Gulliver's travels?

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Osi Osgood
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Just two ...

Gullivers Travels
Hoppity Goes to Town.

"Hoppity" broke the bank for the Fleischer studios. In what turned out to be an illegal seizure of his studio, (he finally won his court case in the early 1970's), when Hoppity bombed at the theaters, Paramount stole the studio from out under Max and Dave Fleischers hands. The sad thing is that Hoppity is definitely a better film that Gulliver, but it had two things working against it ...

1. Paramount barely bothered to even market the film, not liking the original title "Mr Bug Goes to Town" ...

2. it had the unfortunate timing of being released the weekend of December 7th, 1941 ...

Peoples minds were immediately sidetracked, and sadly, "Bug" bombed.

It may not have the "craft' of a Disney feature at the time, but the subject matter certainly worked to the Fleischers strong points when it came to animation and story-telling.

The bluray still isn't out there yet but boy, I do look forward to it someday!

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Brian Fretwell
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With reference to the original title, the Derann released trailer (on a rel with The Reluctant Dragon) has the film titled Mr Bug Goes to Town.

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Iman Yahya
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Still looking for that particular Derann trailer reel. Have the Mr. Bug section only but the beginning is a little clipped.

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David Ollerearnshaw
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I thought this was released by Ivy Films in New York originally on super 8.

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Leon Norris
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Yes this film was released by Ivy films! I have a print by Ivy and red fox films! But I see that the Ivy print is sharper than the red fox print! The red fox print has a little more color to it! A every injoyable film!

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Osi Osgood
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It's kind of Ironic that the trailer on L.P.P. film stock, that I happen to have, actually has more vibrant color than the features, both of which are on L.P.P. and Agfa respecitvely.

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Leon Norris
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OSI, who released this excellent trailer you have ?

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Osi Osgood
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- posted June 12, 2019 11:22 AM      Profile for Osi Osgood   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I do not have the distributor, but it might well be Derann, it really is stunning. I'll look at the titles and see if it says "Hoppity" or "Mr Bug" Goes to town.

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Leon Norris
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I'll be on the lookout! It would be nice to splice on to the feature!

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Osi Osgood
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Here is a youtube video of that very trailer, (not my copy, but thats it). The color reproduction isn't entirely accurate, but it's close.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbOxYRMC2e4

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Leon Norris
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Nice trailer OSI, its sharp with nice color! A must have!

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Osi Osgood
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... and it does have better color than what you see on that youtube video. I wouldn't be surprised if that is the super 8 low fade print!

Ohhh, if only either one of the low fade prints had THAT color!

The Derann, while low fade, has a slightly "dupey" quality, where the Agfa Red Fodx print has some slight scratching to the negative here and there, but it IS the full complete feature, where the Derann has to be considered an edit.

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Leon Norris
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Find a good Ivy print! Its nice and sharp!

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Brian Fretwell
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There is a lot more about the production of this film here :- https://www.fleischerstudios.com/mrbug.html
Including the fact that it's first public showing was in England with the Hoppity title.

[ July 02, 2019, 04:03 PM: Message edited by: Douglas Meltzer ]

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Leon Norris
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Also the red fox print is sharp with good color! I just had a print come in! On two 800 ft reels!

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Osi Osgood
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Brian, sadly that link doesn't work. I would LOVE to read about Hoppity, though.

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Douglas Meltzer
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Brian had added a period to the url which I have deleted. The link works now.

Doug

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Leon Norris
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Lots of great info on this production! A must read and see.

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Osi Osgood
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Thanks for correcting that link, Doug!

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