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Tom Photiou
Film God

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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003

posted April 12, 2005 12:17 PM

Here is a classic on 8mm,Stereo, Scope and most important all,(as far as the fan club is) the original 1799 release, no Xtras, no add ons, no updated CGI graphics.
I see on the dvd front it seems that collectors want this film so badly in its un-touched format and George Lucas has said he will never release on disc in this 1977 format, (bet he does one day when he see's how many more $ he'll get out of it). Thats one thing the 8mm collector seems to have the upper hand on.
This in mind, What is the most anyone has seen this film go for on any list or e-bay.
I'm glad to say this is a film we gor many years ago from Derann and suffice to say do not intend to sell it ever. [Big Grin]

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Alan Rik
Film God

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From: New York City, NY, USA
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posted April 12, 2005 02:29 PM

The most I have seen it go for is $500. And that is in the UK with the British Sterling being 2 to 1 with the dollar. Originally when it came out it was advertised at $400 and that is pretty much what it still goes for. They do seem to come up very often actually! I have seen it numerous times on Derann's list and one just sold on Paul Fosters list the other day. Its not as rare as say...ET. That one is rare and I have seen that one priced at $750 US.

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Steven Sigel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Massachusetts
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 12, 2005 05:16 PM

In case you are looking for a print - I've got one on ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6385951319&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1

FYI - in 16mm, prints of the original Star Wars trilogy have been increasing in value. I paid $400-$600 each for mine, and recently I've seen them sell on ebay for $2000-$3000. So perhaps the Super 8 will appreciate in value too...

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted April 12, 2005 07:17 PM

I've seen all of the 3 original Star Wars movies so many times, I can't even say how many... My wife and I did attend the 1997 re-releases in the theatre as well (and naturally had a blast, me especially). [Big Grin]

So when I saw this updated version for the first time I was actually looking for the changes/enhancements... and really can't say I noticed a whole lot of them. In fact, all that I can even remember right now, off the top of my head, is 1. the enhanced explosion of the Death Star near the end of the movie, and 2. the brief encounter between Han Solo and Jabba The Hutt on the way to boarding his Millennium Falcon.

There must've been a lot I missed, otherwise I can't really see why collectors want this film in its original 1977 version so badly...! Or is that just a collector's sense of purity at work here? [Cool]

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John Clancy
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Cornwall
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 13, 2005 02:58 AM

Oh dear Jan. The rehashed version of Star Wars destroys it. Too much obvious cartooning added in afterwards making the film look like a bad joke. The bit with Jabba the Hutt was so embarassingly poor I can't understand why the film editor didn't just take the scissors out. Not only that, Han Solo had just had exactly the same conversation with the bounty hunter in the cantina.

However, there is an exception: the death star battle at the end of the bastardized version was very well done indeed.

Classic currently have a Super 8 Star Wars on their list for £200 I believe.

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
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posted April 13, 2005 08:04 AM

Whoah, John... settle down [Wink]

Well I guess I really did miss a good deal of stuff here, time to go watch my new Star Wars DVD set (a Christmas present from Mrs. Wife) and look for those differences again! The one bit I really can't agree with, though, is that the new version has too much "cartooning" in it - now if you were talking about The Phantom Menace and our favorite character, Jar Jar Binks, then maybe.... [Roll Eyes]

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Tom Photiou
Film God

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From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003

posted April 13, 2005 01:19 PM

And what about the version where at the canteena scene on the later version Harrison ford gets fired at first,before killing the Alien. How sad is that for Political sadness?? [Mad]

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted April 13, 2005 10:37 PM

Ugh. Very sad, indeed - but if all the changes are as subtle as this one (I'd certainly never have known!) then it's no wonder I've had such a hard time making them out. [Eek!]

Did they actually ever release The Empire Strikes Back and/or Return Of The Jedi on super-8 as well? (Full-length, naturally) [Confused]

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John Clancy
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From: Cornwall
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posted April 14, 2005 07:34 AM

Jan have a look at the original version again before watching the rotten rehash. Particularly the sequences on Tatooine where the stormtroopers are searching for the heroes. What the bloody hell are all those things suddenly flying around with them? They're obviously drawn in afterwards and have no place in a live action film. Now if it was "Bedknobs and Broomsticks" they'd have a case.

CGI is cartooning. Just because it's not called cartooning doesn't mean it isn't. There are some CGI effects where they're done so well they're invisible; the Star Wars rehash is not one of them (except the reworked Death Star battle at the climax). Jurassic Park may not be the best film in the world but for the most part where CGI (cartooning) was used it was outstanding. All too rare nowadays where everything tends to be rushed and on the cheap.

Yes, Empire and Jedi were released on Super 8 full length. Both are still available new I believe from Classic.

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Steven Sigel
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Massachusetts
Registered: Jun 2003

posted April 14, 2005 12:26 PM

Hi Jan ---

I've got a Derann print of Jedi on my list (see the For Sale Forum).

I also think that you can still get it new from Derann...

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Tim Drage
Film Handler

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From: Harrow, London, UK
Registered: Nov 2004

posted April 15, 2005 09:00 AM

quote:
my new Star Wars DVD set (a Christmas present from Mrs. Wife) and look for those differences again!

When you do, you're going to be spotting a whole load of NEW changes! They've done quite a few more orwellian alterations for the DVD releases apparently! [Frown]