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Scott G. Bruce
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 229
From: Boulder, Colorado, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted December 16, 2005 10:57 AM

My collection of multi-reel features is starting to pile up (and I'd like to save space) and I'm hoping to get hold of an Elmo 1200 sometime soon (which will allow me to show longer reels), so I've made a resolution to acquire a new skill in the new year: the ancient art of splicing.

Questions abound: What does one need in terms of equipment? Is it so difficult that a Canadian will have trouble with it? Will innocent people and pets be at risk?

Any advice will be greatly appreciated, as always. Thanks, SGB

PS I promise to use this knowledge to splice film and film only! No mad scientist genetic experimentation at my house. No sir!

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Tom Photiou
Film God

Posts: 4837
From: Plymouth U.K
Registered: Dec 2003

posted December 16, 2005 12:14 PM

You'll require protective gloves, welding goggles and a good quality space suite, some pvc tape, a cup of Tea (for break time), a broom to sweep up after,

Oh and a splicer [Big Grin]

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Scott G. Bruce
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 229
From: Boulder, Colorado, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted December 16, 2005 12:29 PM

A space suit and goggles I've got, but TEA?!? Where on earth can I find tea???

SGB

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

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From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 16, 2005 06:08 PM

No Tea for a Coloradan:

Coors!!!!

What were we talking about?

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Scott G. Bruce
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 229
From: Boulder, Colorado, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted December 17, 2005 09:24 AM

Coors? Ugh. Personally, I'm a Sam Adams fan, but in fact I'm also a Canadian and we've got a saying about American beer like Coors that I won't repeat on the Forum without permission from either Kevin or Doug to use a common expletive. You may have heard it before. It begins: "What do American beer and making love in a canoe have in common?"

In all seriousness, though, and back on topic, I take it from the response I've received that splicing short reels together to make them longer is in fact so straight forward that it requires little comment and I should just go ahead and give it a shot, once I've obtain the basic equipment. If so, then cool! SGB

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

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From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted December 17, 2005 01:56 PM

quote:
No mad scientist genetic experimentation at my house. No sir!

Yeah, wouldn't want any copycats around here [Wink]

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Joe Taffis
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1592
From: United States
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 17, 2005 03:41 PM

Hi Scott, I use a CIRO and/or a GUILLOTINE wrap around tape splicer. They are auctioned on eBay from time to time, and refill rolls of tape are available from several sources online. They use a roll of splicing tape that snaps into the splicer. The splices don't cover the main sound stripe, and are holding up well after 30 years plus!

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Scott G. Bruce
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 229
From: Boulder, Colorado, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted December 17, 2005 03:46 PM

Jan, you just knew who I was referring to when I wrote that, didn't you? You don't bear any resemblance to Peter Lorre, do you? When are we going to see that picture?

Joe, thanks for the advice. I appreciate it. I'll hunt around on ebay to see what I can find.

SGB

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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm

Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005

posted December 18, 2005 04:19 PM

Yes, Scott, I knew that was directed at me... [Wink]

... no, thankfully I don't have those mad bulging eyes, or a receding hairline for that matter... as for the picture... it's just been MAD around here and this is the first time in a few days I've even spent more than two minutes to check the forum for the latest goings-on [Eek!]

I'll give that a shot later tonight (literally)... [Embarrassed]

EDIT: by "around here" I meant my personal life, not the forum [Roll Eyes]

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John Whittle
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 791
From: Northridge, CA USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 20, 2005 10:07 AM

Scott,

A major advantage to using the CIRO tape splicer is you can put thogether your reels without lossing frames as you would with a cement overlap splice. You should also keep all your original leaders incase you need to break down your feature or decide later to sell it.

Cement also won't work on estar (poly) film base.

The other alternative is an ultrsonic splicer, but those usually cost in the thousands of dollars.

John

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Steven Sigel
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 701
From: Massachusetts
Registered: Jun 2003

posted December 20, 2005 10:39 AM

I've got a couple of super 8 tape splicers avialable if anyone needs one. One is a Ciro, and I forget what the other one is - but it's similar... $50/each...
email me at : sts (at) sigel (dot) net

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Scott G. Bruce
Expert Film Handler

Posts: 229
From: Boulder, Colorado, USA
Registered: May 2005

posted March 06, 2006 11:11 AM

This weekend, I picked up a nice Ciro Super 8 Guillotine Tape Splicer for $40 on ebay. Thanks again to everyone for the advice and discussion. I'm sure that I'll have some questions for you once I begin putting it to use!

SGB

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