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Topic: Re-recording digest versions
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Maurizio Di Cintio
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 977
From: Ortona, Italy
Registered: Jan 2004
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posted June 30, 2009 09:19 AM
It's in no way a fast task, especially if the digest is short and heavily condensed. It may be so time-consuming that whenever I re-record a digest, I ask the same rate as for a full-length version even if it's much shorter. That said it doesn't matter so much which editing software you are using: it has to be fast, reliable and with the capability to compare the S/8 version to the video version. I guess all editing SW can do this. I for one feel quite happy with Adobe Premiere.
This is my workflow: I capture the S/8 digest on PC using the Elmo (Crystal Synced @25 fps); the start leader is very important because it contains several cue marks that can be later conveniently use to start the projector automatically when the moment comes to transfer the new audiotrack back to the film.
Once the digest is in the PC, you need a DVD; working on a digest, there is no need to capture the whole film, just the segments you are interested in. It is important to capture both image and sound because a visual reference can be most useful in several cases.
Next step is to assemble all this footage in the right order, trimming start and end of each scene. Each cut must match precisely the cut on the S/8 print: I usually work with the S/8 scene and the one from the DVD side by side on the timeline (like Jean suggested), and each of them share 1/4 of the monitoring area on the NLE SW. This way possible mistakes become apparent immediately. While assembling the visuals, you automatically assemble the soundtrack too. At the end of the process, though, you might incur in a very short clicking noise at each cut. To overcome this, you prolonge head and tail of each assembled sound element by 2 frames, and divide the souond on two separate soundtracks (A/B roll-style) so that at the start/end of each segment, the sounds overlap for a fraction of a second: this permits to apply a fast fade-out/fade-in on the overlapping sounds which smoothens the result perfectly and sound becomes amazingly good and virtually seamless.
When you are satisfied with the results, you have to put a beep sound, a 1/25 of a second, on one of those numbers in the leader. I usually put this sound reference on cue mark No 10 or 9, so there is enough leader yet for the projector to stabilize speed.
Finally the asseembled sound-digest is transferred onto a DVD and ready we are for the final transfer to S/8. Here "Pedro's" Sync-box comes in handy again in that you stop the projector on the same leader cue mark as that with the beep. Then put the whole set up in stand-by mode (Pedro's box overrides the Elmo GS 1200 motor controls). Now it's the time to start plyback the DVD. When the beep is heard, this signal running into Pedro's box, causes to start the projector which starts to record immediately. From that moment on, if everything has been done as it should be, sound and pictures will run in perfect sync till the end of the digest.
If you need more info, email me at: maurizio (underscore) dicintio (at) fastwebnet (dot) it
-------------------- Maurizio
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Flavio Stabile
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 707
From: Roma, Italia
Registered: Feb 2005
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posted June 30, 2009 02:00 PM
Thanks for your detailed explanation, Maurizio!
To recap: there are mainly three phases:
1. ACQUISITION (import the S8 material on a PC using a digitazion method like a normal digital camaera, and ripping a DVD as source)
2. EDITING (edit the DVD source to create an exaxt replication in terms of AUDIO and VIDEO of the S8 sequence previously captured)
3. RECORDING (play the edited DVD source from the PC and record the audio on S8 using the GS + Pedro BOx)
Well, while I'm quiet confident with step 1 and 3, I would like to ask you more on step 2:
1. Using PREMIERE how do you view the two video on a single preview screen?
2. Which format (MPEG2, AVI, other) do you use to execute the editing?
3 Can you let me see a capture screen of ADOBE with a sample of the arranged video and audio tracks and the preview video?
Thanks for your reply Flavio [ July 02, 2009, 03:07 PM: Message edited by: Flavio Stabile ]
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