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Darryl Cheek
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From: Durban, South Africa
Registered: Aug 2010


 - posted February 12, 2011 09:12 AM      Profile for Darryl Cheek     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi all knowledgeable folk out there.
Splicing cement is not available in my part of the world and posting liquids is a problem. I think that it consists of acetate or acetone with a little bit of old film dissolved in it. The question is, which one, how much old film and are there any other secret ingredients?
Thank you
Darryl

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Bryan Chernick
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From: Bothell, WA, USA
Registered: Mar 2010


 - posted February 12, 2011 11:37 AM      Profile for Bryan Chernick   Email Bryan Chernick   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Kodak Professional film cement contains:
1,4-dioxane (123-91-1), Dichloromethane (75-09-2), Acetone (67-64-1), Methanol (67-56-1), Cellulose nitrate (9004-70-0)

That's what it says on the side of the can anyway. I did read somewhere on the internet that you can make it by dissolving film in Acetone but it didn't say how much film or how much acetone.

I purchased a pint can from B & H Photo in the US and now have enough to last the rest of my life. I can see where they may have problems shipping overseas but there may be exemptions for small quantities. I see it for sale in a small 1/2 ounce bottle on ebay all the time. Just make sure it's clear and has not turned yellow.

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Joerg Polzfusz
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From: Berlin, Germany, Europe, Earth, Solar System
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 - posted February 14, 2011 02:54 AM      Profile for Joerg Polzfusz   Author's Homepage   Email Joerg Polzfusz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi,

film cement is the same for all formats. Hence these two labs should have some - at least for their own purposes:
http://www.filmlab.co.za/
http://www.waterfrontstudios.co.za/

You should also be able to buy cement from one of the companies listed on Kodak's webpage:
http://motion.kodak.com/US/en/motion/About/Worldwide_Sales_Offices/index.htm#southafrica

You might also ask your local cinema (even though they're most likely using tape instead of cement to repair broken films).

When still want to mix it yourself:
http://www.filmshooting.com/scripts/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=19915
http://www.marriottworld.com/pieces/pieces24.htm#recipe

Take care,
Jörg

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Darryl Cheek
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From: Durban, South Africa
Registered: Aug 2010


 - posted February 14, 2011 11:40 AM      Profile for Darryl Cheek     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hi and thank you for your replies.
I will contact our local Kodak supplier in Durban first before looking further afield.
It also looks as if a supplier on ebay posts to South Africa from the U.S.A. which will be my last resort.
I will let you know how my search turns out. Thanks once again.
Darryl

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