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Topic: Black Leader For Autoloading Wanted

Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1733
From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003

posted January 05, 2018 01:07 PM

I am looking for dark black super 8 silent leader. Does anyone have a source for this? I am looking to buy about 1,000 feet.

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted January 05, 2018 05:24 PM

If Urbanski doesn't have this, you might consider buying a lot sale of expired negative or Kodachrome film off of eBay. Unprocessed color film is very opaque, but I can't remember which one has remjet on the backing which rubs off (bad). You want remjet IN the emulsion so it can't wear off. I think that's Kodachrome.

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Maurice Leakey
Film God

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From: Bristol. United Kingdom
Registered: Oct 2007

posted January 06, 2018 05:43 AM

Chip
Here's a link to Urbanski Film for their supplies of Super 8 leader.
http://urbanskifilm.com/supplies.html

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Maurice

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Luigi Castellitto
Jedi Master Film Handler

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From: Campobasso, Italy
Registered: Jun 2013

posted January 06, 2018 10:11 AM

Chip, Wittner have it, only if in 33ft:
http://www.wittnercinetec.com/epages/WittnerCinetec-Super8-16mm-Film.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/WittnerCinetec-Super8-16mm-Film/Products/1043

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Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1733
From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003

posted January 06, 2018 10:28 AM

Thanks guys. I'm aware of those dealers. I'm trying to find it in bulk. Urbanski's 50 foot rolls at $9.50 seem like my only hope.

For those of you doing changeovers this helps alot. Splice 3 feet between the last projected picture frame and the tail of the print.

That allows you to do a very fast double exposure. One on black, the other on the new reel. Very quickly you start motor, strike lamp and switch sound, then reach over and shut the lamp of the ending reel. This sounds complicated because you only have seconds to do it - but really it is very simple and quite professional when you get the hang of it. Just make sure to use a print that has original lab cues in the proper place, and that your leaders are marked to put # 8 on a countdown or # 6 on a clock leader in the top loop. That is - the number # 6 or # 8 in the top loop. Upon 1st cue you start the motor and on second cue you switch everything over.

If you are in to using twin machines to run a show, you will really dig this procedure once you are comfortable with it. Master it - and it will change everything about how you run your shows.

CG

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted January 06, 2018 03:08 PM

Steve at the Reel Image sells 50' of black acetate (not plastic) leader for $4.50.....he could probably get you a large quantity.

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1632
From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted January 09, 2018 11:11 AM

Please let us know what you decide, Chip. And I'm quite partial to your technique.

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1482
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted January 10, 2018 05:34 PM

Actually I go thru a ton of leader and I could use a large quantity myself....Reel Image can sell 1000' black super 8 leader for $59.....that's a good deal! [Smile]

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted January 11, 2018 06:42 PM

That IS a good deal. Question being: is it Neumade plastic junk, or actual film?

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Bill Phelps
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1482
From: USA
Registered: Jan 2009

posted January 11, 2018 07:14 PM

Hi Bill...did you see my original mention of the leader a few posts above..... the leader Steve sells is acetate not plastic.

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Burton Sundquist
Master Film Handler

Posts: 318
From: Burnaby, B.C. Canada
Registered: Feb 2017

posted January 12, 2018 01:08 AM

...So far I have purchased 400' of black leader from Steve Osborne and The Reel Image. I find It less striking and more aesthetical during transitions between reel/spool changes when used as the tail. I don't have a fancy projecting booth and I run a single projector. No complaints from my audiences so far...

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1632
From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted January 16, 2018 05:56 PM

Sorry Bill, didn't read carefully enough. Thanks for clarifying. Burton too!

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