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Topic: Beaulieu 708El HTI on EBay! Cool!
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Michael De Angelis
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1261
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted October 14, 2004 10:23 PM
Hi Alan,
I tried the Altavista translation page, and it did not work.
So then I tried translating phrases, this is the best that I could work out.
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Current requirement: EUR 1,00
Remaining time: 9 days 13 hours of offer duration:
10 days offer ends: 24.10.04 17:54:32 Central European Summer
Time Beginning of offer: 14.10.04 17:54:32 Central European Summer Time
Article location: Bavaria Germany
Dispatch after: Europe
Forwarding expenses: EUR 8,00 - uninsured dispatch (within Germany)
Description (revises)
To the auction comes: Beaulieu 708 EL STEREO super projector in the HTI m execution.
Here briefly most important capability characteristics of this Super8 Beaulieu Powerprojektors: Alternately applicable: normal 150 Watts of cold light mirror lamp or 250 Watts of HTI Powerlamp! The change of the 150 Watts on the 250 Watts lamp can be created with few handles - after exercise - within one minute, if the lamps are cooled down! The Beaulieu 708 EL stereo offered here is equipped with a separate power supply for HTI lamp, which also only on use of the HTI Lampentechnik are attached muss. (advantage: easier transportation facility!)
Also this Projektor Beaulieu super 8 HTI projector with a light flap (system Neuman) is ausgestattet, also permitted with stop of the equipment burning the HTI lamp! - best indulgence for the HTI lamp! Diverse high performance exhausts provide for an appropriate cooling of the HTI Lampe! of references: By the exhausts it comes to a stronger noise. By the HTI Lampentechnik it comes also to a certain breakdown irradiation also magnetic sound-purely - uses if -; through ein the certain "Zirren" itself; in the magnetic sound rendition makes leider noticeable. - this feature is system-dependent! - The Beaulieu projector 708 HTI m ist equipped with metal coil thorns, so that as a rule also Metal coils without damage of the coil thorns be used can.
The other equipment characteristics the appropriate Beaulieu 708 EL Stereo! picture fig. of 18 and 24 pictures - fine adjustable; Stereophonic sound rendition and admission; Hinterbandkontrolle; Audio trick possibilities. Of course also Duoplay with Duoplayautomatik. Publication IC address Funktion. Capstan drive motor control. Projection objective: Cutter cross after MC recompenses 1,1/11-30mm. A short test before the Einstrellung resulted in: Rendition with 150 Watts and HTI lamp okay; Exhaust somewhat loud - system-dependent breakdown irradiation on use of the HTI lamp.
Insgesamt beautiful maintained total condition! Note: The HTI model has no inserted loudspeakers: are selbig to attach separately - do not belong here to the scope of supply. Despite all enthusiasm for the Technik taken place the auction of this Beaulieu of projector exclusive as lover , Collecting tank and/or piece of amateur handicraftsman without further warranty! Supply after vorauskasse; Postage and packing in Germany 15.00 euro and Europe 45.00 Euro.
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted October 15, 2004 10:17 AM
Welcome Jean-Marc, to the best 8mm forum on the Web. This is THE place for 8mm film collectors, full of knowledgable and friendly people from all over the World. I collect Super 8mm films, and have interest in 9.5mm film and equipment. I particularly like all the beautiful and interesting film equipment from France, such as Pathe, Heurtier, and Beaulieu.
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God
Posts: 2392
From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 16, 2004 04:05 AM
Tony:
Thanks, I was lucky enough, as a kid, to be sent regularly to the UK on Holidays as part of my family used to live in Beckenham, Kent. But you should hear me speak, I sound like Maurice Chevalier in "Gigi" (Thanks Heaven, for little films...)
Oh... *That* word... Useful for enhancing our beloved little mag-tracks, though...
James and Douglas:
Yes, you can fit 700m reels on the Beaulieu (Oh, yeah, that's another reason why I don't wanna part with mine), but the feeder and take-up spools are so close to one another that it's almost frightening. I think some of the plastic reels (Posso) don't fit. Now, if only Beaulieu had done better homeworks (ie - better sound board with optical capacity, stronger motors, brighter lamp), the 708 would be a darn fantastic projector. As of today, it's just a really good one.
I wonder if one could play Dr Frankenstein and fit bigger arms on the GS1200 for enhanced capacity... Superb stereo mag sound (rec/play), optical sound, bright and stable projected image, 110 minutes on one reel. That would be perfect, wouldn't it? OK, you couldn't fold the arms back but, hey, in case of permanent installation, who cares?
(yeah, I know, you can always add a Spondon-type Long-Play Unit, providing you can find one...)
I hear the question coming... No? I'll write it down anyway...
"Why don't you get a Fumeo?" Well, I've been thinking about it, really (or should I say "reelly"). In order to get the nice features mentionned above, one would have to go to the higher end of the range (ie - 9139, 9143, 9145). These are hard to find and quite expensive. From what I've learned, discussing with Fumeo owners, the projected image isn't as stable, ARC/Xenon lamps have a very short lifespan (less than 50 hours on the 9139) and are scarce to find as well. *sigh*
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God
Posts: 2392
From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 16, 2004 05:17 AM
Hi Kevin,
I guess we all needed some input about hands-on experiences, thanks for that! I noticed about the sound head trough being too narrow, some of my prints just can't be projected without producing a very annoying hissing sound. Agreed about the continuously spinning drum. A very odd feature indeed. Fortunately, mine is still working properly.
Ugo and all, as you can see, we're back on topic
Which makes me think of something. Mister Administrator, are you reading this?
My goal, in joining this forum, was to try to expand the little knowledge I had on projectors. I surely enjoyed reading all of the posts (yeah, the 30 + pages...) and I did learn a lot.
How about creating a sub-forum - maybe something that would be locked, preventing any OT questions to appear - with fact sheets and experiences about our beloved machines. We could put our brains together and create the ultimate super8 projector database. One message (filing all the informations from different members) per projector. That would be a very useful tool, especially for newbies...
What do you all think ?
Am'I getting too far?
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God
Posts: 2392
From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 17, 2004 03:51 AM
James,
OK, I'm going to try to clarify this.
Right now, we have three sub-forums (8mm general, films for s/t/b, equipment for s/t/b). How about a 4th forum for this database? We could decide who would do what projector. A small team per projector, say Kevin, Ugo and maybe some others could create one post about the GS1200, another person/team for the GS800, another person/team for the Beaulieu 708, and so on, and so on. This new subforum would feature one post (not matter how long it is) per projector but one could only read them, not answer to them in order to avoid chaos and confusion (techy questions about specific features should still be addressed in the general forum). If any new information is to appear on one post, then it should be forwarded (email or PM) to the person/team, who would then update the post.
So, here's a little scenario:
You arrive on the Forum main page and you see four sub-forums (8mm, films s/t/b, equipment s/t/b, projector database).
You click on the "projector database" link and the page that appears features posts such as:
Elmo GS1200
Beaulieu 708
Bauer T180
Fumeo 9139/9120
Eumig S810
Silma S233
etc. etc.
Say, for instance, that you click on the Bauer T180 post (I just cleaned mine yesterday...), you'll see one post that features all the basic elements of the projector
- Super 8 and 8mm
- 12v 100W lamp
- 180m/600ft take-up spool
- dual track sound
- 115v-240v
etc.
Plus a few comments such as 'No bass/treble settings, sound restitution too deep', etc.
I guess that would be the easy way to go without getting into programming a real online database (that can come later ![[Wink]](wink.gif) )
I hope it is clear enough. And as far as I know, nobody has ever done this on the Internet.
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Mine started to have problems with the small motor which controls the speed of the sound drum assay. A very strange setup indeed. The driven continuousley on these machines and the speed is controlled by the size of the lower loop. This is a great idea providing it works flawlessly. The size of the loop is controlled by a photocell and ordinary fillament lamp. Now if that small lamp goes during projecetion of a film all hell lets loose and you cant change this small lamp ordinarily as the machine has to be stripped down to get to it. They do go because mine did.![[Roll Eyes]](rolleyes.gif)
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