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Topic: Eumig S940 Stereo on eBay
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Paul Adsett
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From: USA
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posted November 30, 2004 10:58 AM
A mint condition Eumig S940 Stereo has just been listed on eBay. These are superb machines with 800ft spool capacity, 150w halogen lighting, and an awesome stereo recording/playback console. I have the 938, which is the same machine as the 940 except it has analog recording meters, and I can tell you that the stereo sound quality is the best of any super 8 projector I have heard, and that includes the GS1200. The 940 and 938 both have the normal in-line 2-sprocket film feed, and the auto threading is faultless and the machine is extremely kind to your films. The 938/940 were the very best machines that Eumig ever made. If you are looking for a top of the line super 8 stereo projector which is just awesome, you should consider this one.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11722&item=3856669515&rd=1
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Paul Adsett
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posted November 30, 2004 02:24 PM
Hi Doug,
Well it looks like you snapped this one up! I don't blame you. Believe me, if I did'nt already have the 938, I would have bid on this for sure. Anyway, I think you will love this projector, very relaxing to use after working with finnicky GS1200'S, and as I said the recording and playback quality is second to none. It sure is a stunning looking machine- tell your wife it is a great investment, sure to increase in value faster than the dollar is falling!
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Paul Adsett
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posted November 30, 2004 07:53 PM
Hi Kev,
No I am not knocking GS'S- I own two of them and love them both. But you must admit that the GS is a very complex piece of machinery, all those relays, solenoids, micro-switches, electronically controlled motor etc. This of course is what makes it such a great projector- when everything is working right. But judging by the amount of postings on this and other forums, GS's can and do go wrong fairly frequently. That is why it is so great to have available the expertise of people like yourself and Ugo, to keep these wonderful machines running. In comparison, the Eumig's are mechanically quite simple, and therefore have excellent reliability. The Eumig's also, in my opinion, are much kinder to film than the Elmo's, which can sometimes scratch your film at the sound head pressure pads and metal rollers. The only complaint I have with Eumigs is that the sound heads are somewhat softer than the Elmo's and therefore can possibly wear out a little bit faster. But I still have a 30 year old Eumig 820 which runs and sounds like new. And I believe that Eumig used harder heads in the 900 series machines.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Paul Adsett
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posted December 01, 2004 08:33 AM
Good Morning Heinz,
I am suprised by your comments regarding Eumig. I have always had very high regard for "The Wizards of Vienna". They produced brilliantly designed projectors , manufactured to very high standards of quality, all at reasonable prices. I own five Eumig projectors, S802, S824 Sonomatic, two S926 GL Stereo's, and a 938 Stereo. Of these four, only one (the S802)has exhibited problems with the drive disc, and I have worked this machine to death over the last 30 years. None of the other machines have shown any problems, mechanical or electronic. For the 900 series, Eumig greatly improved the drive disc design, making it very precise and very easy to fine tune the speed control. I have never scratched a single frame of film on a Eumig projector, I cannot say the same for my Elmo's, as wonderful as they are. If results on the screen is what counts, the 938 and 940 can compete very well against a GS1200, except in the area of screen brightness, where the GS1200'S 200W clearly betters the Eumigs 150w lamp. But if you put an f1.0 lens into the Eumig you get very close to a GS1200 with an f1.3. Stereo sound quality on the Eumigs is much better than the GS1200- better base and highs, and zero WOW, which is not the case on the GS1200. Recording is much easier on the 938/940 with the brilliant outboard mixing console, so much so that I never use my GS'S for recording. And I say again, that the Eumigs do not exhibit anywhere near the number of mechanical and electronic problems that pop up on Elmo's. Yes the GS1200 is a magnificent machine ,clearly aimed for the high end semi-professional market, but lets give Eumig their due praise for marketing wonderfully performing machines at a fraction of the cost of the GS1200. Anyway, I hope Doug enjoys his Eumig 940 as much as I do my 938.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Craig Hamilton
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posted December 01, 2004 08:40 AM
Heinz, I think your comments regarding the Eumig 900 range are a little unfair. Yes the Elmo GS 1200 is a very nice machine indeed, but I must say that as I treat this Hobby for what it is, a Hobby, I would feel very uncomfortable about spending close to a thousand pounds for a machine that needs permanent love and care. Yes I understand that as long as Kev & Ugo are posting, then help and support is at hand. I neither have the time or interest to start ripping projectors apart to fix this or fix that. When I have the time I like to set my Eumig up and project films, not having a dedicated home cinema, I, like many others rely on taking over a room for our film shows. Can I assume that you have had a personal bad Eumig experience? My Eumig model the S932 could be picked up on Ebay for around the £70 price range, If she ever does die then I will be more than happy to purchase another Eumig and keep the old one for spares. I have been running my Eumig now for some six years and apart from one lamp holder problem she has been faultless. How many times have you pulled your Elmo apart in six years? So in conclusion I am very happy with my Eumig. One last comment Heinz, I thought that everyone on this forum has one thing in common, we all love Super 8, regardless of equipment and film collection sizes. I did not think that their was a class system in place, amateurs & professionals.
Craig
Who is only a Eumig owner & must bow in the presence of the mighty ELMO
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Craig Hamilton
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posted December 01, 2004 10:58 AM
Kev, I am not trying to start a machine war on the forum but only trying to make the point that if you are happy with a particular model then fine, that is your choice. There are a few projector models around that I would not even give to my worst enemy, but I do not criticise them or their owners publicly. Heinz, nothing I say is aimed at you personally, but you prefer Elmo, I like Eumig, this is our choice. Doug, I hope you are pleased with your purchase, and hope it gives you many years of reliable service.
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Paul Adsett
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posted December 01, 2004 06:03 PM
Hi Kev,
You are absolutely correct about the near impossibility of cleaning the sound heads on the Eumig 800 series projectors. The only way you can do a thorough job is to remove the sound head and dissassemble it, and this is about a 1 hour job! However, this same problem does not apply to the 900 series machines, where Eumig totally re-designed the heads so you can drop out the pressure pad assembly at the turn of a knob, making the heads just as easy to clean as on the Elmo GS1200.
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The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection,
Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade
Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar
Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Heinz-Juergen Schachner
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posted December 02, 2004 01:42 AM
Hello,
I really did not want to start a war between ELMO and EUMIG fans. I am not a particular ELMO fan and I think it is not possible to compare ELMO with EUMIG. A fair comparison would be EUMIG against BAUER, because these machines had been built for the same audience - the amateurs. The phrase "amateurs" has been used by BAUER themselves, when I talked to a BAUER engineer at the Photokina 1982 in Cologne, Germany. In fact I am a BAUER fan, ever since my father has bought his first BAUER super8mm movie camera in 1969. The Bauer studio machines (T502 to T610) are the movie projectors I like the best. They are very quiet, reliable and most of the parts are still available.
In the past I had four EUMIG S 940 machines. I purchased my first S 940 new over 20 years ago (it must have been in 1981) from a local photo store. At present I have sold all of my S 940 machines and three of them had the same problem with the rubber plated discs. There are some more things I really do not like on the S 940: Cleaning the film window is very difficult, the red spring which pushes the sound pressure plate against the sound head breaks rather easily, the focus adjustment is rather inaccurate, the spring in the main switch breaks very easily so that it does not lock in place any more and the noise of the small fan (the one for cooling the lamp) can get very annoying.
I really agree to Craigs statement: "We all love Super 8, regardless of equipment and film collection sizes."
Best Wishes
Heinz-Juergen Schachner
Germany
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