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Topic: Eumig 8mm S O&E model film jam
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Gary Crawford
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 979
From: Manassas, VA. USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 18, 2005 09:20 AM
Good news for those of you with jammed threading of Eumigs. I was able to fix my jammed new ( off ebay) 810-D Lux....but thanks to you, Paul Adsett, Expert Film Handler from Orlando. I posted my problem back in July and he sent me some instructions. I'm going to type those in here now and then after , tell you that following his procedure and taking the sound head off, revealed a three inch long strip of old film..( home movie film of the previoius owner) stuck in the path , stuck in the sound head so it would not let anything else in . But you guys may have the problems he outlines. At any event , performing his procedure last night got my totally useless Eumig up and running beautifully. and now here's what Paul posted..
" A couple of thoughts come to mind: 1. Are you trimming the film leader correctly. Also make sure you are NOT trying to thread the film with the control knob in the fully clockwise (second position). In this position the sound head pressure pads are already pressing on the sound heads and the film will not be able to push through the sound head path. You MUST thread at the first clockwise position of the control knob"
However it was the second procedure that did the trick.... " If this fails, make sure that the sound head pressure pads are being retracted when you put the machine into the forward for threading position ( first clockwise position). There is a mechanical linkage from the control knob, which pulls the pressure pad downwards from the sound head during threading. If this is NOT happening, you will have to remove the sound head attachment bolt, and pull out the sound head. ( this is real easy-) Remove the front side cover and bottom side panel ( 1 screw) . The sound head is held in position by one screw and an alignment pin on the chassis. then re-install the sound head WITH THE CONTROL KNOB IN THE FULLY CLOCKWISE POSITION. This will ensure that the linkage engages the soujd head pressure pad tab on the bottom of the sound head."
** That's what Paul wrote....and in the process of doing that, I found the piece of film stuck in there. I suspect there was nothing wrong with the linkage, but doing the procedure revealed that film...and now instead of a junk machine , this morning I have a beautiful mint and perfectly working unit that I got on ebay for less than 100 dollars. **
So that;s what I can offer you guys who had the same problem with yours. But really , if you, Paul, are still on the forum, thanks so much. !!!
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Paul Adsett
Film God
Posts: 5003
From: USA
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted March 18, 2005 07:58 PM
Hi Tom, stay away from the GAF'S! The Eumig 800 series is more up to date than the 700 series. The S802 is the entry level Eumig, and only has a 2.5 watt amplifier. Try and get an 820 Sonomatic HQS (High Quality Sound) which has a much better 10 watt amplifier, a larger internal speaker, and an external amp socket- altogether a much better machine. All the 800 series have identical mechanical design- truly rugged aluminum cast chassis, and a superb intermittent design which is extremely kind to film. I have never scratched or torn a single frame of film on a Eumig 800 machine. The 900 series were the most recent produced and a totally new design from the 800's, but do NOT buy any of the 900 series that have the coaxial reel arrangement on the rear of the machine (these machines have no feed sprocket and are murder on film). This includes the otherwise excellent 926GL stereo. Models 930 and up are fine, all having the traditional 2 sprocket in-line film path. The 900 series are noted for their excellent sound quality, better signal-to-noise ratio , much lower 60Hz hum level, and better high frequency response than the earlier 800 series. The ball and disc drive clutch was also greatly improved on the 900 series and incorporated a precision speed control, and the sound head was designed for easy removal of the sound pressure pads to easily clean the sound heads. Of the 900 series, the 938 and 940 are the top of the line stereo projectors, the best machines Eumig ever made. They are not quite as ruggedly constructed as the 800 machines- more use of plastic components to reduce weight (and cost).
-------------------- The best of all worlds- 8mm, super 8mm, 9.5mm, and HD Digital Projection, Elmo GS1200 f1.0 2-blade Eumig S938 Stereo f1.0 Ektar Panasonic PT-AE4000U digital pj
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted March 18, 2005 09:22 PM
I believe the GAF 3000S is actually a rebranded Chinon projector (6000 or 7000 model, maybe) but as such is a pretty basic machine and you might not be happy with it for long. But do stay away from anything else that shows the letters G, A and F together in a little box. Anyway, you might be interested in a Bauer T500 which is on eBay for $99 (a steal, really) however nobody seems to really be aware of it as it's still waiting to be bought. It sounds like a great machine (800ft capacity, 15V/150W lamp, typical Bauer build quality, quiet, strong amp, etc.) - its only drawback appears to be the rather average Will Wetzlar f1.3 lens, also it's a single-track sound model, no playback/recording of the balance track there. If I didn't have so many projectors already I'd buy it in a heartbeat. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7501583335&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT
-------------------- Call me Phoenix. *dusts off the ashes*
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