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Topic: ELMO GS1200 STEREO/user views.
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Andrew Wilson
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 784
From: dundonald,belfast,co.antrim,northern ireland.
Registered: Jan 2006
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posted August 19, 2006 08:15 AM
Hello fellow members,i thought i'd give my views on this super8mm monster.Anyway here it goes. This machine is built to last.The consruction is excellent. IT comes with a 800ft take up spool,but at the flick of a lever can go up to 1600ft-more on that later. The lens is a beauifully made ELMO 15-25MM ZOOM lens that swings out for very easy gate cleaning..I think Elmo were one of the first to do this. As i've said this machine weighs in at a back breaking 31lb,that is 14kg.It stands firmly on three feet,one at the front having a senible screw for tilt adjustment. FILM PATH.the machine uses the two sprocket film path,one with 18 tooth sprocket to pull the film in from the feed reel and feed it via the top loop to the excellent desgin gate.the second sprocket is 24 type that pulls the film very smoothly through the soundhead.Although it says 1200,this machine can take 1600ft spools,that's the spools with the smaller core;than the stranded 1200ft spools. RUNNING THE GS1200 STEREO.The opeartion of this machine was new for it's time.It's controlled by light action press-button or keys and those operate into a soild-state logic circuit.Therefore using this machine is easy and a real joy. But the icing on the cake for this machine is something i haven't tired yet.Its of course the pulse-sync faciltity. If you have dvd then you can record in purrfect sync dolby pro logic stereo sound.I have heard its superb. The Elmo box of tricks doesn't end there. Thank's to Derann you can buy Stereo sound movies on super8mm and i can tell All you members its faultless,good clean stereo sound..sheer heaven. This older machine takes 24v/200watt lamp EJL TYPE orA1/252. Its image is superb and rock steady..what more do you need. OPTICICAL SOUND.Another first was this machines very good optical sound.It's good enough for most ears. At the time this machine was considerd to be the BEST SUPER8MM PROJECTOR IN THE WORLD..,now 27years later has it been bettered. MY view is no.The price at the time was £800.Anyone who still has their machine,will tell you if it's STILL running. There's so much more on this machine it would take me about four months to list what it can do;it's quet simply the greatest super8mm projector in the world.Never been touched by any other make before or since.Pawn your back teeth for one of those beauties.Bloody brillant machine...Andy. [ August 19, 2006, 12:39 PM: Message edited by: Andrew Wilson ]
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Jan Bister
Darth 8mm
Posts: 2629
From: Ohio, USA
Registered: Jan 2005
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posted August 19, 2006 05:29 PM
To be fair, Andrew did mention the EJL 200W lamp in his review only, no word about using an ELC 250W one.
I do have one other bone to pick, though
quote: Although it says 1200,this machine can take 1600ft spools,that's the spools with the smaller core;than the stranded 1200ft spools.
This seems to be the other misconception that's pervasive throughout the super-8 community... there is no such thing as a 1600ft reel for 1200ft-capacity projectors. They do take more film, sure, but it comes out to roughly 1400ft at most (for acetate film, that is).
Seems Kevin and I both have our missions cut out for us... educating others about the 250W lamp and the small-core reels.
P.S.: I wouldn't mind owning a GS-1200... but I almost want a Beaulieu 708EL more... and not because of its huge reel capacity, but because of the superior focusing mechanism and reversed film gate/pressure plate arrangement. Drool.
-------------------- Call me Phoenix. *dusts off the ashes*
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Jean-Marc Toussaint
Film God
Posts: 2392
From: France
Registered: Oct 2004
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posted August 20, 2006 08:33 AM
I'll second that. I've had a 708 for many years before switching to the GS. The sound out of the Beaulieu is nothing compared to the one coming out of the Elmo.
And despite the great Xenovaron lens, the micrometric focusing system is very sensitive, needing constant supervision and adjustment, and becomes excessively hot during screening.
Never had any problem with rewinding as both arms can be adjusted via a simple and clever system of nuts and springs, similar to those found on 16 mm Eikis. Actually, when you look inside the Beaulieu, it looks very much like a 16 mm machine (the motor is huge, hence its ability of handling 2400 ft spools). But then again, the Buysse-Botazzi family, who designed the 708 for Beaulieu were designers builders of custom 16 mm and 35 mm machines.
So, in a nutshell, yes, the Beaulieu has a longer capacity, a better film gate design and a better manual loading/unloading procedure. But the more you use a GS1200, the more you realize it is far superior to all the other machines. It is the King of the Monsters (Godzilla pun intended).
And for those who don't have access to a GS, the ST1200 HD is actually better to use than the Beaulieu... But, that's just my opinion... And I'm french...
-------------------- The Grindcave Cinema Website
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