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Topic: History of Sound on Super 8/standard 8mm anyone?
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Osi Osgood
Film God
Posts: 10204
From: Mountian Home, ID.
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted February 09, 2007 11:31 PM
It just occurs to me, (and baffles me that I never asked this question before), that I've never posed the post before ..
When did sound begin on super 8/standard 8mm.
Lets limit this to the super/standard market, as we know that people were enjoying sound on 16mm for a long time.
Lets also rule out the old record format, (sound recorded on records) as well as the reel to reel tape sychronization, (though this was most certianly the percursor to sound on film.
Questions being ....
What were the first magnetic sound films? Were they super 8 or standard 8 first?
How long has super 8 optical sound been around? I Know that airline prints went way back into the mid to late 60's, but these were not made for the common collectors market.
and ....
What was the first super 8 sound release?
What was the first Standard 8mm sound release?
Now here's one I really want to sink my teeth into!
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"All these moments will be lost in time, just like ... tears, in the rain. "
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Barry Johnson
Master Film Handler
Posts: 358
From: United Kingdom
Registered: Jul 2003
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posted February 10, 2007 08:00 AM
The first comercially produced Standard 8mm sounds films I recollect from my library days were:
1) "UN QUART DE HEUR AT SAN GERMAINE"
French offering in black & white from the then Film Office company of France.It ran to 6mins and had,surprisingly,an english sound track.
2) "COUNTY HOSPITAL"
Laurel & Hardy 400 footer from Walton.Everyones seen it so no description necessary!
Then things came on line quickly,with the brilliant Warner cartoons in sound.Good recordings and brilliant picture.These cartoons were also the first ones to appear as superimposed titles marketed under the "a.a.p" brand (Warner).
Both these titles came to light during March 1961.Take up of the new sound format was very slow,due to lack of commercial projectors and of course,people that could afford them.
The first sound projector for sale at the same time was a CIRSE SOUND which also had the capacity to record.Personally I thought they were pants,as one had to manually set the sound damping over the soundhead to get a good reproduction.That said,some of the striping/ recording of commercial prints was also hit and miss.Many had to be returned to the manufacturers for replacement.
Some time after,came the brilliant TOEI TALKIE,well thought out film/sound path and good sound reproduction (given the aforementioned manufacturing problems).
Following that,came the ubiquitous EUMIG range which set the benchmark for others to follow.
I once owned a Cirse,so I cannot give a better account of its performance.I now own the Toei and can certainly endorse its capabilities.
Hope this information helps kick off this intriguing thread.Brilliant times they were and great to relive!
Barry.
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Standard8 rules!!
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