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Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 24, 2007, 04:40 PM:

Just for the case of discussion, I have noted that kempski tended to slightly edit the features he released. In "Logan's Run" he edited out most of the scene where Logan is chased thru the "pleasure house" scene.

In "Poltergeist" Kempski edited out the pot smoking scene between the husband and wife.

In both films, the scenes were not intregal to the plot in any way, and personally, I think the films are just as good (even better, as I can show the films to a wider audience, as there is less of a chance of offending someone by film content), without them.

I would be curious if any of the other Kempski prints (films), had any other edits on his other releases.

I would note, however, that perhaps Kempski didn't edit these out. Perhaps his negatives were releases that were meant to be released at a lower rating, and therefore would have this edited out. That happens sometimes with a re-release.

Posted by Barry Attwood (Member # 100) on September 25, 2007, 04:47 AM:

Osi,

You've got to remember that as Kempski was a German company, they would most probably only been offered the European or German cut of the film, which even today can differ from the U.S. cut. So that could explain some of the differences, but it can work the other way, I know that when Derann took over the releasing of "Ben-Hur" and they wanted to release it with a stereo track, that there was about 5-6 minutes difference which was not on their stereo master, and Keith Wilton painstakinly found the missing stereo passages so that Derann could have a complete stereo master, and anyone who has seen and heard the 8mm Stereo print, are very impressed.

Posted by Osi Osgood (Member # 424) on September 25, 2007, 10:00 PM:

Barry,

That's a good point about edited for foreign release, but usually, it goes the other way. A european cut of an american film tends to be an un-rated version, with all the juicy parts,

yum yum!

Posted by Joerg Polzfusz (Member # 602) on September 26, 2007, 03:39 AM:

The German version normally lacks all scenes that are too violent or that show drug-abuse. While the US-version normally lacks all sex-scenes.
The German version will also feature some other differences, e.g. all terrorist in "Die hard" are Swedish in the German version, in the first German version of Casablanca Victor Laszlo is a spy that stole some military secrets (=no trace of concentration camps), the Western "Broken Arrow" lacks the scenes with the women complaining about being married, ... . [Wink]

Posted by Andreas Eggeling (Member # 105) on September 26, 2007, 04:18 AM:

[ August 07, 2008, 09:04 AM: Message edited by: Andreas Eggeling ]

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