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Ian John
Film Handler

Posts: 54
From: South Wales United Kingdom
Registered: Dec 2005

posted November 09, 2007 07:40 PM

How's this for a souped-up GS.1200. [Eek!]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120181967974&indexURL=3&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Ian.

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 09, 2007 08:55 PM

It's Frankenstein's Projector!

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All I ask is a wide screen and a projector to light her by...

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Claus Harding
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1149
From: Washington DC
Registered: Oct 2006

posted November 09, 2007 09:48 PM

I was about to ask about the realistic potential of overloading a machine like this when I see Ian posting the very link!

Seriously, is this a case of supercharging a projector so far that belts become almost a bi-monthly expense and a 'quick start' is only possible with a generous amount of manual help?
Or is the 'big 12' strong enough to run this on a regular basis?

I will admit that the see-through reels are quite impressive in their own way. We are dealing with someone who has spent some time watching Super-8!

Best,
Claus.

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"Why are there shots of deserts in a scene that's supposed to take place in Belgium during the winter?" (Review of 'Battle of the Bulge'.)

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Steve Klare
Film Guy

Posts: 7016
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 09, 2007 10:05 PM

Yes, the reels are kind of cool. I'd like a set of 800 footers myself.

The thing about machines is when they are designed, it's usually for a certain maximum load, and you really can't go double and triple the load without pushing something beyond the point of failure.

It's like tearing the roof off a one story house and building two more stories and a roof on top. Unless you start by doing some serious beefing up of that bottom level you are probably going to wind up with a large pile of randomized lumber pretty soon.

...but can't you imagine that take-up reel at the last moment of rewind: like a big circular saw!

(-assuming the machine is capable of proving enough torque to move the reel that fast and it doesn't simply stall out)

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Kevin Faulkner
Film God

Posts: 4071
From: Essex UK
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 10, 2007 09:57 AM

What a giant. I would think those poor little motors will be almost struggling towards the end of the reels and I'm sure they would not be able to produce the torque required unless this guy has found different motors?
I wouldn't want to do that to my Xenon as the job of finding replacement motors is near impossible [Frown]

10 out of 10 for effort [Smile]

Kev.

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Graham Ritchie
Film God

Posts: 4001
From: New Zealand
Registered: Feb 2006

posted November 10, 2007 01:38 PM

Looks good, those reels are impressive 3400ft now thats something, [Smile]

although I cant imagine the tiny take up motor driving it, [Roll Eyes]

unless there is a different type of motor fitted, his buy now price is not unreasonable the projector looks like its been well looked after, a good buy for someone.

Graham.

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Trevor Adams
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 763
From: Auckland,New Zealand
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 10, 2007 03:37 PM

Graham,the standard motors won't deal with the weight of hugh take-up reels-that is why all the extended arm attachments(like Gigant) had their own motors of course. Looks great but I won't believe my eyes! [Smile]

Trev

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Jon Addams
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 638
From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2007

posted November 12, 2007 01:54 AM

Hi,

This is directly from the seller, he said he was told by the Elmo repair guy who did the customizing on this machine that the original GS-1200 definitely could not handle the load but the new Elmo could… [Confused]

The customizing was done by Leon Norris out of Norristown, PA.

Leon is working on two of my machines right now; I am going to give him a call Monday to see what I can find out about this unit. The BIN is still up and it’s not a bad price. I’ll see what Leon tells me and post back.

Jon

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Lee Mannering
Film God

Posts: 3216
From: The Projection Box
Registered: Nov 2006

posted November 12, 2007 04:27 AM

What, no cake stand !
[Big Grin]

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Jon Addams
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 638
From: New York, NY, USA
Registered: Apr 2007

posted November 12, 2007 06:33 PM

Yes, Leon Norris worked on this monster. He said the take-up motor will lift me and my 200 lbs without a grunt! The machine was in mint condition when he sent it back but that was a long, long time ago.

Let’s see where the auction goes.

Jon

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Chip Gelmini
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1733
From: Brooksville, FL
Registered: Jun 2003

posted November 12, 2007 09:26 PM

Like I have always said and gone and done it myself....never modify a projector to handle bigger reels.

The idea: reverse pshycology

The answer: Build a secondary spooling device built to only take the big reels and sit your preferred machine in it or on it. Have the projector only pull the film through and NOT do the spooling.

I think it'd be called a TOWER. [Big Grin]

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Bill Brandenstein
Phenomenal Film Handler

Posts: 1632
From: California
Registered: Aug 2007

posted November 14, 2007 10:20 PM

Ended with "Buy It Now" for $1495. I don't know whether to drool over the projector, reels, or films more.

Empty reels are supposed to go up for sale next.

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