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Posted by Ian John (Member # 507) on November 09, 2007, 07:40 PM:

How's this for a souped-up GS.1200. [Eek!]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=120181967974&indexURL=3&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting

Ian.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 09, 2007, 08:55 PM:

It's Frankenstein's Projector!

Posted by Claus Harding (Member # 702) on November 09, 2007, 09:48 PM:

I was about to ask about the realistic potential of overloading a machine like this when I see Ian posting the very link!

Seriously, is this a case of supercharging a projector so far that belts become almost a bi-monthly expense and a 'quick start' is only possible with a generous amount of manual help?
Or is the 'big 12' strong enough to run this on a regular basis?

I will admit that the see-through reels are quite impressive in their own way. We are dealing with someone who has spent some time watching Super-8!

Best,
Claus.

Posted by Steve Klare (Member # 12) on November 09, 2007, 10:05 PM:

Yes, the reels are kind of cool. I'd like a set of 800 footers myself.

The thing about machines is when they are designed, it's usually for a certain maximum load, and you really can't go double and triple the load without pushing something beyond the point of failure.

It's like tearing the roof off a one story house and building two more stories and a roof on top. Unless you start by doing some serious beefing up of that bottom level you are probably going to wind up with a large pile of randomized lumber pretty soon.

...but can't you imagine that take-up reel at the last moment of rewind: like a big circular saw!

(-assuming the machine is capable of proving enough torque to move the reel that fast and it doesn't simply stall out)

Posted by Kevin Faulkner (Member # 6) on November 10, 2007, 09:57 AM:

What a giant. I would think those poor little motors will be almost struggling towards the end of the reels and I'm sure they would not be able to produce the torque required unless this guy has found different motors?
I wouldn't want to do that to my Xenon as the job of finding replacement motors is near impossible [Frown]

10 out of 10 for effort [Smile]

Kev.

Posted by Graham Ritchie (Member # 559) on November 10, 2007, 01:38 PM:

Looks good, those reels are impressive 3400ft now thats something, [Smile]

although I cant imagine the tiny take up motor driving it, [Roll Eyes]

unless there is a different type of motor fitted, his buy now price is not unreasonable the projector looks like its been well looked after, a good buy for someone.

Graham.

Posted by Trevor Adams (Member # 42) on November 10, 2007, 03:37 PM:

Graham,the standard motors won't deal with the weight of hugh take-up reels-that is why all the extended arm attachments(like Gigant) had their own motors of course. Looks great but I won't believe my eyes! [Smile]

Trev

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on November 12, 2007, 01:54 AM:

Hi,

This is directly from the seller, he said he was told by the Elmo repair guy who did the customizing on this machine that the original GS-1200 definitely could not handle the load but the new Elmo could… [Confused]

The customizing was done by Leon Norris out of Norristown, PA.

Leon is working on two of my machines right now; I am going to give him a call Monday to see what I can find out about this unit. The BIN is still up and it’s not a bad price. I’ll see what Leon tells me and post back.

Jon

Posted by Lee Mannering (Member # 728) on November 12, 2007, 04:27 AM:

What, no cake stand !
[Big Grin]

Posted by Jon Addams (Member # 816) on November 12, 2007, 06:33 PM:

Yes, Leon Norris worked on this monster. He said the take-up motor will lift me and my 200 lbs without a grunt! The machine was in mint condition when he sent it back but that was a long, long time ago.

Let’s see where the auction goes.

Jon

Posted by Chip Gelmini (Member # 44) on November 12, 2007, 09:26 PM:

Like I have always said and gone and done it myself....never modify a projector to handle bigger reels.

The idea: reverse pshycology

The answer: Build a secondary spooling device built to only take the big reels and sit your preferred machine in it or on it. Have the projector only pull the film through and NOT do the spooling.

I think it'd be called a TOWER. [Big Grin]

Posted by Bill Brandenstein (Member # 892) on November 14, 2007, 10:20 PM:

Ended with "Buy It Now" for $1495. I don't know whether to drool over the projector, reels, or films more.

Empty reels are supposed to go up for sale next.

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