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Eric Baucher
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posted January 11, 2008 08:46 PM

I know derann never stopped but other than them.

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Osi Osgood
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posted January 11, 2008 09:32 PM

Some of it continued for quite awhile. If your talking the standard super 8 companies ....

(MGM DISNEY PARAMOUNT ect.)

I am not really sure. I believe the last release for Marketing films was "Raiders of the Lost Ark" 400ft. It was actually slated as a 3X400ft. release (That would have been awesome to have back then).

I think the original Disney final releases were either the

"Mickey Mouse Presents A Collectors Series" which consisted of three known releases :

The Band Concert
The Old Mill
The Ugly Ducking

and perhaps,

"The Scorcerers Apprentice"

I don't know the last of the other main companies.

As optical sound super 8's were around, they could be included as, with each year, (especially with the mid eighties) thre were new optical sound features.

I hope that this helps. Doug or Kevin would probably know far more.

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Adrian Winchester
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posted January 11, 2008 09:45 PM

Difficult to answer as some companies folder after the revival started - and a few even started (eg Lone Wolf, CEC) after the revival.

'Raiders of the Lost Ark' certainly was the end of an era, representing the last new 'mass market' 400' digest.

[ January 13, 2008, 02:22 PM: Message edited by: Adrian Winchester ]

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Andreas Eggeling
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posted January 13, 2008 10:42 AM

[ August 07, 2008, 01:21 AM: Message edited by: Andreas Eggeling ]

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Adrian Winchester
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posted January 13, 2008 02:25 PM

Andreas,

I'd genuinely be curious to know what and when the last commercial video releases were! The end for video came so suddenly that I never noticed when the video racks in stores disappeared, but I get the impression it happened everywhere at more or less the same time.

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Graham Ritchie
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posted January 13, 2008 02:51 PM

Taken From "Movie Maker" 1984.

"The Old Mill" 1937 was one of the last films released by Disney 8 Division before it closed in 1981.

Its interesting to note at that time 1984, "quote", prints of "The Old Mill" were not printed in the quantity of the previous releases and, within no time, there was not a copy to be found anywhere-much to the frustration of many ardent "Disney" collectors.

In 1984 "Derann" came to the rescue [Smile]

securing a deal with "Disney" well thats now 24 years [Roll Eyes]

that brand new prints have been available. I bought new prints [Smile]

to replace my slightly fading ones of "The Old Mill" and the "The Ugly Duckling" just last year, I would highly recomend those new "Derann" films.

Now... [Roll Eyes]

if "Derann" could supply me a new copy of "The Sorcerer's Apprentice" that would be something.

Graham. [Smile]

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Winbert Hutahaean
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posted January 13, 2008 11:08 PM

Surely if we are talking what is the last Disney's release on 8mm, I believe the answer is Popeye.

Based on IMDB this movie was first time released in USA on 12 December 1980. Taking account the windows time (around 6 months) and getting the master to be printed on 8mm, I believe this was on Market at the end of 1981 or 1982.

Anyone can give a clue?

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Patrick Walsh
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posted January 14, 2008 01:59 AM

I have Walt Disney's THE BLACK HOLE that has a date on it of 1981 on a small order form in the box that you would fill out and send away for a FREE movie poster of THE BLACK HOLE.

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Osi Osgood
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posted January 14, 2008 10:52 PM

I Wonder if anyone mailed off for it? (The poster)

I know that when I bought a little 50ft edition of "The Dwarves Dilemma", It had an order form to get four color prints of Diney films (photo's) for free.

Sure enough, I got them in the mail a month or two later.

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Osi Osgood
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posted January 15, 2008 04:53 PM

Hey guys,

I was perusing ebay this morning and noticed that Red Fox films had a summer catalog from 1985. So, how long was Red Fox in business? I understand that Derann bought thier in stock films when they went belly up.

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Jean-Marc Toussaint
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posted January 16, 2008 12:56 AM

Red Fox remained in business a while after the demise of super 8, selling video (tapes and discs).
But the switch was very brutal. Every other month, I was receiving their catalogue (a big tabloid-style newspaper) and from one issue to the next, films simply disappeared.
Purchased my first videodisc from them (The Empire Strikes Back - I still have it and it still runs fine).

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James N. Savage 3
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posted January 17, 2008 02:16 PM

As far as digests go, I think KEN's last release may have been part 2 of "The Empire Strikes Back". On the MGM digest side, it may have been "The Time Machine" 3 x 400 foot.

Universal 8's last release was, I think, "The Blues Brothers" and "Xanadu", both 2 x 400 foot. "Cheech and Chong's Next Movie" was supposed to be released with these two movies, but I don't think it ever made it onto film. If so, its extremely rare.

James.

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Osi Osgood
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posted January 17, 2008 02:32 PM

I think it we really look at when video took over, I think it was literally from the beginning of VHS on the market, that AND the release of studio videos on the market.

I could be wrong, but I think that in many ways, Super 8 was always a slightly underground market for, most people, even during Super 8's heyday, couldn't afford a feature on Super 8mm.
They would no doubt wait for it until it showed up on TV AND with the advent of recordable VHS, would record, with or without ADS. I remember my dad having an enormous collection of recorded off of TV movies, and that was good enough for him.

Though dad had some old 8mm home movies, he never went rabid about film. It was just what was done way back then.

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David Kilderry
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posted January 17, 2008 05:51 PM

I would consider Super 8 was mainstream in the late 1970's, but of course it never approached the success of the video tape for movies. I remember every department store here had a Super 8 section with plenty of film.

I remember when K-Mart ended their sales of Super 8 movies; they sold the Columbia line here, they discounted the range and then it was gone. I bought a few B & W silent 50ft Flintstones films discounted from $2.95 to $1.95! I still have them. I think this was in 1981.

I recently looked back at local Super 8 catalogs from 1983 and there was still lots of titles available, but how much of this was two year old stock is hard to know.

David

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James N. Savage 3
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posted January 17, 2008 09:29 PM

I think it was when the 200 foot "Star Wars" digest was first released that super 8 went main stream for a couple of years.

It was still playing in theaters, and you could have 8 minutes in color and sound in your own home, for $25-$30. At that time, super 8 was everywhere.

James.

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Alan Rik
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posted January 17, 2008 11:37 PM

i remember in 1977 reading Famous Monsters of Filmland the magazine and always near the back of the mag was the section with all the Super 8 films they had. Just tons and tons of films. I was very young so I thought that for $29.95 you got the whole feature! [Smile]

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Osi Osgood
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posted January 18, 2008 11:12 AM

Boy Alan, you REALLY brought back memories there!

When I was cutting classes back in the late 70's I was usually hanging out at the 7-11 (until the cashier would run me off) reading all the "Famous Monsters" magazines, and REALLY wishing that I could buy a print of "War Of The Worlds", but never could.

Beautiful memories!

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